That I don't really know about, but I know a few folk who got sponsored with ease, one bird was working at the place as an intern from uni, they got her a visa for work in a couple weeks, she was Russian, also got a couple other people work visas who were still studying at the time, but based on her they went for it. They weren't Russian, but were some former bloc countries.

This was in graphic design and multimedia broadcasting work, so not exactly like a shortage of those skills in the UK and not like these folk had a lot of experience.

Wow! You're kidding! That nucking futs! That's how I funded my one semester of overseas study. It barely covered the overseas tuition, and I'm still paying all that off but it was well worth it (met my OH while there). I'm very disheartend by the apparent lack of understanding of the positive impact of studying overseas. *****ing money-a$$ Bush.

Anyways, Pashtun, wish I could offer some help. Good luck, and I hope someone here can give ya some advice.

To get a work permit in NL, I had to prove I was only one capable of doing my job there.

yup...it sucks because the missus was doing her masters online through Kings College, first year had to get private loans as couldn't get federal help for online masters, got help in the second year, and then couldn't get anything in the third and that's when the pound was getting silly so doing a cheap course suddenly became really expensive....

But then I got laid off just before we had to pay and they considered that an extra ordinary hardship as the missus was just about to have our baby at the time, so they wiped the bill clean for the year, which was a big phew moment for as it was only £3K but that was nearly $6K at that point.

It possibly helped that she was the only bird on her course, it was a new course they introduced when she started it and she was the only non-military person.

She should find out the results any time in the next week apparently...but when her advisor is off on holiday, it's a bit hard finding anything out and she did it part time which is why it took 3 years

I am impressed. What a creative use of letters.

Yeah. I had to go through it myself - it was hell. The HR section of the the Canadian government (HRSDC) do something called a Labour Market Opinion (LMO) that looks at the job market to determine if there are enough Canadians to do the job that the potential foreign worker will be doing. If they figure out that there are enough Canadians to do the job, it will be refused. They then send you a LMO refusal letter, which you have to forward to Canada Immigration and they then decide whether to give you a work permit, they have discretion, but they don't really use it in cases where an LMO was used. The desicison of the LMO is generally used as a rule of thumb as to whether to give a foreign worker a work permit or not. Its sucks

So it sucks that the Canadan government gives preferential treatment to its citizens and tax payers rather than an unknown foreigner? Wow do you have a shock coming to you when you do eventually stop studying and start working. Life isn't fair.

No. That doesn't suck. The context of my 'It Sucks', as we were discussing in this thread, is that citizens of North American countries and others seem to be able to get Visa's for the UK with reletive ease in comparison to Brits being able to go to North American and other countries with reletive ease. That sucks. I used to know a nepalese guy, who was working for Sainsbury's and was able to jump from a student Visa to a working Visa with reletive ease, even though he was working at the checkout in the supermarket. If you wanted to work in the USA, in a supermarket checkout job the liklihood of you getting a H-1B Visa for that kind of job is non-existent. If you can enlighten me and tell me of a case that you know of, where a person who has worked in a job such as a supermarket checkout in the US AND has managed to get a working Visa based on that job, I would be interested to learn about it.


It amuses me to learn that you seem to have the assumption that I have never worked before. FYI I have been working since I was about 15/16 years old and I still do work. People in the real world do in fact study and work at the same time. However, you are in no position whatsoever to comment or to judge, even if I didn't work and wanted to concentrate solely on my studies. The typical stereotype of a student life doesn't represent the whole student population. I, for one am a mature student anyway and when I say that, I mean to say that I am 27 years old, not 18. You do not know me, or know what is on my CV so bearing that in mind I should keep comments like that to yourself.

It's a public forum, so I can make any comments I like. I never said that you don't / have never worked, and you're right that I don't know you, but all we have to go on is your posts here. Most of which I have seen indicate that you studied in the UK, want to study in the US and now are looking to study in the UK again to support you going to study in France. Do you see a common theme here? Additionally having read you other posts I know that you like to selectively share information to make things appear a certain way. You keep telling people that Indiana University is the only American university to offer Pashto. Well Upenn and Chicago Uni offer it also. You also say France is the only European place to offer it. Again a short search found many places in London offering courses.

I agree that immigration in to the UK seem overly easy when compared to many other countries and that immigration in to the US is extremely hard. I for one like that. I left England for this very reason and now that I have successfully relocated to the US, I feel privileged that my education and skills have been recognised as sufficiently advanced as to have been considered desirable in another country.

I support that people can't come over here as a cashier and permanently relocate. Now if we can just do something about the ones that are already here...

[BTW that was a joke]

Thank you, Mr. Giuliani.

I must ask. Why do you feel the need to have something to "go on" in order to make a comment about me not working? Do you have some kind of obsession in lurking around threads to build up information about people and then form assumptions about those people, in order to make a comment like that? You dont have to answer this, but this question pops to mind. This is a public forum, you are right. However forming opinions about someone (someone not working) and then portraying those opinions about someone and making them look like they could be facts, in a 'public forum' is just wrong. The context in which you made that comment suggests that in fact I have never worked in my entire life! It also makes it look like you actually do know me, when you do not. Reasons to make comments about people in a public forum as a joke or otherwise, with of course the 'joke' being always used as a cover, are none.

Yes. And? So you use this information to come to the conclusion that I have never worked before and then make a comment on a 'public forum' suggesting that I never have? If I had posted posts or created threads here that had information to conclude that I was someone who, for example liked to cook and loved Italian food and loves travelling to Italy, then does that mean that all I eat is Italian food and that I have never eaten a chicken curry, because it is Indian and not Italian? I am a human being, my life doesn't revolve around studying and I have a life. People come on this forum looking for advise and information on specific issues. No one posts a thread detailing every aspects of their life and their person in order to get specific info on wanting to study overseas. Do you get what I am trying to say? I hope so. BTW for your info - there is another post around here somewhere that indicates that I have worked for Universal, Warner Bros. and BBC - info that I offered to advise another poster/advise seeker. I should be scared that you are a stalker. But I am not.

Oh really? What do you mean by 'selectively share information'? You damn right on a 'public forum'. And which post was that? Oh hold on. I don't care. This is just evidence and characteristic of a stalker.


Oh really? And you don't think I know that? FYI I have done my research and I have been in close contact with UPenn and Chicago. In fact I have visted them during a visit to the US. They currently do not offer Pashto as a Major or Minor subject, or in a way where you have to take the language as a core part of the program. They only offer it as 'elective modules' and that too to a very basic level not suitable for me. If you really really really do not believe me, I can give you the name of the person at Chicago that I contact. Her name is Ms. Bashir. The one from UPenn is called Amanda, but I forgot her last name. If you want, I can forward you the email correspondence? I am just amazed that you actually went and researched Pashto in the USA. Why on heavens earth would anyone do that? Oh, I don't know - Stalker!


Oh really? You think I also do not know that? Well, if you researched correctly, you will find SOAS (School of Oriental and African Studies), where in fact I used to study myself. They used to offer Pashto in their Language centre, which offers Language courses not linked to a degree program, or any academic program for that matter. It was a basic level course (again not suitable to me) and this course didn't carry a qualification. In fact, It was just one of those short courses that people take to learn a language, like you can do in adult education centres, or like a cookery class where you just learn and get no certificate. This course was cancelled due to low students numbers (zero!). FYI France is the only place where you can do an academic course, such as a Diploma, Certificate, degree or a Masters in Pashto language specialisation.

Oh, so we do agree with something then. It didn't seem that you thought like this based on your original post. My 'selective' use of language to convince you had worked then

This extra foam padding of info, (generally used by people who sub-conscienciously feel they need to prove themselves) I don't need. I don't care, sorry.

"Do something about the ones that are already here? Meaning? You don't need to answer, but I am not sure in what context you mean by those "already here" - you mean legal immigrants or illegal? Or those trying to stay but can't? Whatever, again, no need to answer.


Joke, eh? Haha. Sure it was. Yeah right...

H2B seasonal worker to pick spuds and blueberries...happens a lot in the small border towns in Maine, they bus down people from Canada and up from Mexico for the season...some of the towns even calendar the school year around the picking times of those crops...that's how rural and weird it can be up there

But isn't that an example of a working Visa that is just as restricted as most other US Visa's? They come with the Labor cert. caps, no US workers available etc baggage. To qualify for this Visa, the job has to be seasonal in nature, as far as I know, and has to be in certain fields such as agriculture and service. I don't think UK work permits are limited to season or type of job for that matter and I think also that they can be used as a stepping stone to ILR in the UK, unlike the US Visa from which you cannot jump onto a Green Card, as far as I know. I could be wrong. I don't think the UK has a Visa cap system, either.

Waaaaaaah!

FYI Bob, school calendars originated around agricultural communities based on what was in need of being sown or harvested. It's that way in the South as well.