British sports coaches are to stand trial in Dubai over the death of a five-year-old
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Then one would hope common sense prevails... and the directors are suitably insured.
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Is there a possibility of Capital Punishment for these two?
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If all proper measures are taken, then the biggest risk becomes human failure (usually stupidity, which is difficult to legilsate for). Unless you're dealing with an event that is truly force majeure (meeting all four requirements of the "classical" deinfition), or human error, then there's always a cause which could have been prevented.
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The problem is that it's the UAE....
If every rule / consequence was thought of, then everything would be fine.
If all proper measures are taken, then the biggest risk becomes human failure (usually stupidity, which is difficult to legilsate for). Unless you're dealing with an event that is truly force majeure (meeting all four requirements of the "classical" deinfition), or human error, then there's always a cause which could have been prevented.
If all proper measures are taken, then the biggest risk becomes human failure (usually stupidity, which is difficult to legilsate for). Unless you're dealing with an event that is truly force majeure (meeting all four requirements of the "classical" deinfition), or human error, then there's always a cause which could have been prevented.
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I feel quite ruthless.
I should have started or finished by saying it's a horrid tragedy and that I hope the family are supported in all ways expected.
I should have started or finished by saying it's a horrid tragedy and that I hope the family are supported in all ways expected.
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A friend of mine was the head of safely for a local contractor. A few times he had his passport held by police while on-site deaths were investigated. I have no idea how he slept at night.
Understandably, he was very very strict and thorough. Deaths still happened though.
Understandably, he was very very strict and thorough. Deaths still happened though.
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A friend of mine was the head of safely for a local contractor. A few times he had his passport held by police while on-site deaths were investigated. I have no idea how he slept at night.
Understandably, he was very very strict and thorough. Deaths still happened though.
Understandably, he was very very strict and thorough. Deaths still happened though.
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It ofcourse is a terrible tragedy and I dont want to even think what the parents would be going through right now. Time as always is something you hate because in time this pain shall too pass and somehow you dont want it to pass....ever!
Anyway, I tend to agree with the comment above that IF you have the right personnel and IF they have had the proper training and IF all protocols are followed (most important in this case being not exceeding the number of bodies in the water at any one time by the already pre-set number) then there ought not to be a death of anyone. Water is an alien environment even for grown-ups, let alone little kids and should be respected as being a killer. Once you bring all your team members on board about them recognizing the high risk involved when bringing a non-swimmer into the water then and only then you can have a zero accident rate. It is like I saw this video of Rihanna or Lil Kim or some other large behinded woman doing a concert here in Dubai and mid-song she just walked up to her body guard who was busy browsing his smart phone and just chucked it and walked away. Niggah please! You have a job to do just for those 3-4 hours and focus at the job in hand.
I remember when I was very young a kid died in our pool, super cramped pool and only 2 body guards. Poor kid dove, hit his head and slid down to the deep end. Was found after it was too late. It was a Navy pool, so both the guards got court-martial and probably got lengthy jail terms but I still think that those poor buggers really weren't at fault as they were just too many kids in the pool. The safety guidlines were not followed thats all.
Anyway, I tend to agree with the comment above that IF you have the right personnel and IF they have had the proper training and IF all protocols are followed (most important in this case being not exceeding the number of bodies in the water at any one time by the already pre-set number) then there ought not to be a death of anyone. Water is an alien environment even for grown-ups, let alone little kids and should be respected as being a killer. Once you bring all your team members on board about them recognizing the high risk involved when bringing a non-swimmer into the water then and only then you can have a zero accident rate. It is like I saw this video of Rihanna or Lil Kim or some other large behinded woman doing a concert here in Dubai and mid-song she just walked up to her body guard who was busy browsing his smart phone and just chucked it and walked away. Niggah please! You have a job to do just for those 3-4 hours and focus at the job in hand.
I remember when I was very young a kid died in our pool, super cramped pool and only 2 body guards. Poor kid dove, hit his head and slid down to the deep end. Was found after it was too late. It was a Navy pool, so both the guards got court-martial and probably got lengthy jail terms but I still think that those poor buggers really weren't at fault as they were just too many kids in the pool. The safety guidlines were not followed thats all.
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took me the best part of 10 years to get the message across that these things could be avoided, it wasn't Allah's will. One of my most devout lads turned his truck over and escaped completely unscathed because he was wearing his seatbelt, he became our #1 ambassador
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then this wouldn't have happened - somebody wasn't watching a 5 year old in a pool !
took me the best part of 10 years to get the message across that these things could be avoided, it wasn't Allah's will. One of my most devout lads turned his truck over and escaped completely unscathed because he was wearing his seatbelt, he became our #1 ambassador
took me the best part of 10 years to get the message across that these things could be avoided, it wasn't Allah's will. One of my most devout lads turned his truck over and escaped completely unscathed because he was wearing his seatbelt, he became our #1 ambassador
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Now I am not saying if I didn't wear one I would of walked out scotch free...I am not. I find driving without a seat belt very unsettling any way
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I can relate to him but i wouldn't be so brash as what he said. I had a car crash when i was younger, the seat belt bruised all my internal organs to the point i was intensive care because of the damaged caused by the seat belt.
Now I am not saying if I didn't wear one I would of walked out scotch free...I am not. I find driving without a seat belt very unsettling any way
Now I am not saying if I didn't wear one I would of walked out scotch free...I am not. I find driving without a seat belt very unsettling any way
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I worked for this company so I know certain things. What I find amazing is why Active Sports owners are not being charged and how are they still running swimming classes? They should not be allowed to teach swimming.