Go Back   British Expats / Living & Moving Abroad / Europe / Portugal

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old Aug 17th 2017, 12:55 pm   #16
Forum Regular
 
007Steve's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2015
Location: Algarve
Posts: 241
007Steve has a reputation beyond repute007Steve has a reputation beyond repute007Steve has a reputation beyond repute007Steve has a reputation beyond repute007Steve has a reputation beyond repute007Steve has a reputation beyond repute007Steve has a reputation beyond repute007Steve has a reputation beyond repute007Steve has a reputation beyond repute007Steve has a reputation beyond repute007Steve has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: 2019 - UK EXITS OPEN SKIES AGREEMENT

Quote:
Originally Posted by GeniB View Post
OHMYGOD.. Do we HAVE to travel this way? Bring back the ocean going liners..So it takes a week to get to Portugal I'M GAME...
... ah yes, GeniB,..... but, what about your carbon footprint, your ecological contamination trail, your upper atmosphere steam-smoke pollution not to mention the... Waste effluent slick
.... sigh... gone are the days of innocence

Last edited by Rosemary; Aug 18th 2017 at 7:02 am. Reason: corrected quote
007Steve is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 22nd 2017, 3:17 pm   #17
Forum Regular
 
007Steve's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2015
Location: Algarve
Posts: 241
007Steve has a reputation beyond repute007Steve has a reputation beyond repute007Steve has a reputation beyond repute007Steve has a reputation beyond repute007Steve has a reputation beyond repute007Steve has a reputation beyond repute007Steve has a reputation beyond repute007Steve has a reputation beyond repute007Steve has a reputation beyond repute007Steve has a reputation beyond repute007Steve has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: 2019 - UK EXITS OPEN SKIES AGREEMENT

Well, well…… it seems that Gloom & Doom Nutty-Steve isn’t so far off.

Brace for Brexit: UK air traffic faces slump without deal, airports warn

But at least there’s One Bright Spot!
Terminal 5 @ Heathrow, & parts of Gatwick, Stansted, & the all the other UK airports can be turned into temporary A&E’ units; - with beds on the baggage carousels and those large luggage trolleys….. See? A solution to the (invented by malcontents) NHS crisis
[I]‘Crisis - what crisis?- Pah ’!![/I]
007Steve is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Oct 2nd 2017, 9:03 am   #18
Forum Regular
 
007Steve's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2015
Location: Algarve
Posts: 241
007Steve has a reputation beyond repute007Steve has a reputation beyond repute007Steve has a reputation beyond repute007Steve has a reputation beyond repute007Steve has a reputation beyond repute007Steve has a reputation beyond repute007Steve has a reputation beyond repute007Steve has a reputation beyond repute007Steve has a reputation beyond repute007Steve has a reputation beyond repute007Steve has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: 2019 - UK EXITS OPEN SKIES AGREEMENT

Parallel to topic, but the news of the demise of Monarch, makes the oncoming Brexit from the Open Skies Agreement a little more concerning to Brit ex-pats this morning.
Monarch was the last from an era of UK carriers who chartered and badged their own aircraft to support high-volume package holidays businesses. That model, like every other that fails to adapt, has now died. Monarch joins, Cosmos, Dan-Air and Laker as a fond, but redundant concept. A sad day.
So, where does this leave things? The remaining low-cost carriers are having tough times; - we can all read headlines so there’s no need to repeat them.
If you’re one of these carriers, it seems to me that a strategic long term decision is now not far off.
Essentially, imo, it’s this;-
Do you either continue to service a future opted-out location, in the hopes that the sales volumes generated may continue to help carry your operations through, or do you sell your UK landing-slots and use the capital to relocate in either a reduced capacity, or growth cycle, inside a more placid common area where standards are known and where costs, especially for fuel, are in a single currency?
I sometimes think the whole high-risk airline industry is a game of last-man-standing!
From a UK viewpoint, depending on what may or may not happen, a discernible outline now seems to be emerging.
- There will probably be far fewer UK domestically based carriers post Brexit
- Carriers will be more risk-averse, especially to airport landing charge increases;- the risible basis of the UK Govt.’s funding for future airport capacity development.
- Carriers will probably be more focussed with long-haul operations than short, where costs can be equalised over other competition.
- Customers will face higher charges as divergences between EU and UK regulations and practices harden over the decade.
- With changed border controls, costs of delays for ex-pats and more importantly those costs in their implementation, will be passed through to passengers in the form of local airport taxes.
Finally, any assumption that Easyjet, Ryanair, etc. will now automatically scoop up all of Monarch’s assets, especially their pilots, routes & landing slots, is, imo, an overhasty one. It may well be that given the decision above, Ryanair especially, will use current under-capacity to allow their remaining competitors to commit their precious resources to a static, if not cul-de-sac market, leaving them with the flexibility to adapt and see out the current tough times.
For expats, Monarch’s demise may become a notable event.
It would be interesting to have the views of anyone connected with the airline industry.
__________________
A person's most dangerous possession is their EGO;- invariably proving to be in inverse proportion to their importance

Last edited by 007Steve; Oct 2nd 2017 at 9:06 am.
007Steve is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Go Back   British Expats / Living & Moving Abroad / Europe / Portugal


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT. The time now is 11:43 am.


Powered by vBulletin: ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
© 1999-2010 BritishExpats.com