Originally Posted by OleJanx

I wonder why, with redminnow it is the staightest questions that get the most serpentine responses. With his level of waffle, he should be in Politics. Local government always appears to have a great number of people like him, who when questioned, doesn't reply, but says "That's an interesting question! Now let me ask YOU a question..." i.e. if you don't like a question, change the subject. Jeremy Paxman and Michael Howard springs to mind every time I see one of redminnow's postings. Sometimes amusing in the way they are off-the-wall and irrelevant, and ultimately hollow.

Originally Posted by mikewot

You really are clueless about evolution. It is not some goal driven process to bigger, better, stronger. It is adapting to fit a niche and stay alive for longer than other species without your adaptation(s).

Originally Posted by mikewot

It is adapting to fit a niche and stay alive for longer than other species without your adaptation(s).

Originally Posted by redShark

Yes faiths do have a common origin. All faiths around the world (except for one) are mutations from the original pure revelations from the creator. So yes, the origin of divine faiths is one.

As for ‘religion and faith are dead and dying’ I wonder Where you got that idea from!! Linen had that idea before you and did his best to prove it by brutal force before the Russian people later on proved him that he was horribly wrong. Religions have always been around since time immoral. Two things were actually born when man first appeared on this earth, religion and wars, they are integral parts of human life.

And what is the point of bringing Gilgamesh into discussion? But since you seem to be a big fan of his let me tell you what he wrote in his epic then. He actually mentioned the big flood event and that was much, much earlier than the Bible did. His epic was the first human documented laws in history.

Originally Posted by Scamp

Where do you live Redfish?

Originally Posted by mikewot

But an exquisite form of trolling and he gets a bite every time.

Originally Posted by Meow

It would be a first if redminnow answered any direct question.

Originally Posted by Scamp

My answer would be one word, as most probably, so let us see...

Originally Posted by OleJanx

....you...

Originally Posted by Scamp

....next....Tuesday....?

Originally Posted by Norm_uk

Christians and Jews believe the first four books of the bible were compiled by Moses after direct revelation from God. Nowhere is it suggested Adam wrote anything since he is a character in the writings of Moses. It is likely that in reality the writings of Moses are based on early verbal stories and borrowings of surrounding legends from Mesopotamia. Just as the Koran is based on Gnostic Christianity and Arabian pagan legends the bible is based on early things with bits added, taken away and updated.

Gilgamesh does indeed pre-date the bible - any bible scholar can tell you that.

It must be hard basing one's entire identity on a flawed book. Even harder to put the supposed writer of that book above every other human being that has lived before or will live after.

N.

Originally Posted by Fossildog

It is actually undecided if Gilgamesh pre-dates the bible. There is certainly no consensus amongst bible scholars. What is pretty certain though is that Genesis is a patchwork of older written texts and stories passed down. Very likely the same stories Gilgamesh is based on. Genesis does however mention Adams lineage which would highly likely have been written down, along with a poem directly accredited to Adam (Flesh of my flesh etc). So whilst it could be disputed that Gilgamesh is the older book, the source material for Genesis contains texts that date far back as the first man on earth.

Originally Posted by shiva

What? Just what......

The tablets upon which the epic of Gilgamesh is written pre date Christianity, the birth of christ and the old testament by near two thousand years. So pretty much as separated from the alleged writing of the bible as we are today!

You sir are talking pish, utter, distilled and the purest of pish

Originally Posted by mikewot

But an exquisite form of trolling and he gets a bite every time.