Mass shooting in Texas
#16
Re: Mass shooting in Texas
Not about guns? yeah right. Perhaps if there were better rules around guns then this kind of thing might not happen, as, well, people might not have guns.
It does irk when you get the morons going on about the 2nd amendment and how you cannot change it, blissfully unaware of what the the "2nd" and "amendment" words actually mean, and that there could be another amendment to change things.
Has the phrase "lone wolf" been mentioned yet? How many times has "thoughts and prayers" been blurted out? (personally speaking, thoughts and prayers don't make any difference to this, and in this particular case, if prayers to a higher power are meant to help, then why didn't that higher power do something to prevent their followers from being killed?)
Yes, it is sad that it has happened, and yes, it could be friends or family of ours whom are affected, but to be quite blunt here, I'm just somewhat, well, "meh", about this kind of thing, as it seems to be a monthly occurrence, and nothing is ever actually done about it, nor do I suspect it will be in the foreseeable future. Oh, of course as soon as anyone I directly know is affected, you can be sure I might speak up, so it's a bit hypocritical of me.
It does irk when you get the morons going on about the 2nd amendment and how you cannot change it, blissfully unaware of what the the "2nd" and "amendment" words actually mean, and that there could be another amendment to change things.
Has the phrase "lone wolf" been mentioned yet? How many times has "thoughts and prayers" been blurted out? (personally speaking, thoughts and prayers don't make any difference to this, and in this particular case, if prayers to a higher power are meant to help, then why didn't that higher power do something to prevent their followers from being killed?)
Yes, it is sad that it has happened, and yes, it could be friends or family of ours whom are affected, but to be quite blunt here, I'm just somewhat, well, "meh", about this kind of thing, as it seems to be a monthly occurrence, and nothing is ever actually done about it, nor do I suspect it will be in the foreseeable future. Oh, of course as soon as anyone I directly know is affected, you can be sure I might speak up, so it's a bit hypocritical of me.
#17
Re: Mass shooting in Texas
Not about guns? yeah right. Perhaps if there were better rules around guns then this kind of thing might not happen, as, well, people might not have guns.
It does irk when you get the morons going on about the 2nd amendment and how you cannot change it, blissfully unaware of what the the "2nd" and "amendment" words actually mean, and that there could be another amendment to change things.
Has the phrase "lone wolf" been mentioned yet? How many times has "thoughts and prayers" been blurted out? (personally speaking, thoughts and prayers don't make any difference to this, and in this particular case, if prayers to a higher power are meant to help, then why didn't that higher power do something to prevent their followers from being killed?)
Yes, it is sad that it has happened, and yes, it could be friends or family of ours whom are affected, but to be quite blunt here, I'm just somewhat, well, "meh", about this kind of thing, as it seems to be a monthly occurrence, and nothing is ever actually done about it, nor do I suspect it will be in the foreseeable future. Oh, of course as soon as anyone I directly know is affected, you can be sure I might speak up, so it's a bit hypocritical of me.
It does irk when you get the morons going on about the 2nd amendment and how you cannot change it, blissfully unaware of what the the "2nd" and "amendment" words actually mean, and that there could be another amendment to change things.
Has the phrase "lone wolf" been mentioned yet? How many times has "thoughts and prayers" been blurted out? (personally speaking, thoughts and prayers don't make any difference to this, and in this particular case, if prayers to a higher power are meant to help, then why didn't that higher power do something to prevent their followers from being killed?)
Yes, it is sad that it has happened, and yes, it could be friends or family of ours whom are affected, but to be quite blunt here, I'm just somewhat, well, "meh", about this kind of thing, as it seems to be a monthly occurrence, and nothing is ever actually done about it, nor do I suspect it will be in the foreseeable future. Oh, of course as soon as anyone I directly know is affected, you can be sure I might speak up, so it's a bit hypocritical of me.
I think this is one the downsides of a religious population, that many rationalize the tragedy by thinking the person is going to heaven or that God meant for this to happen. It's that kind of fuzzy thinking which inhibits change. I know what you mean about "meh" as much as it is a tragedy for each and every family, but what can be done when so many refuse to listen to the reason on gun control. Given that it's Texas, there must have been a fair few members of the congregation that had been expounding gun rights in relation to the recent Las Vegas killing. It's sad that the US can't get beyond their 2A obsession.
At the bottom of this BBC newspage there is a short BBC video which has a graph of all the mass shootings (3 or more fatalities) since the 1980's; the trend is getting much worse.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41892838
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Last edited by Shard; Nov 6th 2017 at 5:45 pm. Reason: Add webpage link
#18
Re: Mass shooting in Texas
But it's not a gun situation. The President himself said so.
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#19
Re: Mass shooting in Texas
Unfortunately, in so many ways, this is a sterile discussion and argument. Pandorra is well and truly out of the box and rapidly arming herself in case anyone tries to put her back in. What the US should be attempting is to make an effort not to make things worse. The wholesale dissemination of rapid firing assault weapons which all agree must be acquired by everyone because other people have them is an example of what they should not be doing.
"But", I hear you say, "we all know what they should not be doing, what can be done now, in today's USA?"
Well, I'm afraid there's little will in the US to do anything and the shock factor of senseless killings and the many windows of opportunity they created have passed by long ago. I don't believe that the US has the common sense to look inward and purge itself of the insanity that grips it. It's as though, where guns are concerned, the entire US has lost whatever sanity it once had and is becoming populated by a race of lemmings.
nb: Appologies to lemmings.
"But", I hear you say, "we all know what they should not be doing, what can be done now, in today's USA?"
Well, I'm afraid there's little will in the US to do anything and the shock factor of senseless killings and the many windows of opportunity they created have passed by long ago. I don't believe that the US has the common sense to look inward and purge itself of the insanity that grips it. It's as though, where guns are concerned, the entire US has lost whatever sanity it once had and is becoming populated by a race of lemmings.
nb: Appologies to lemmings.
#20
Re: Mass shooting in Texas
An odd analogy, but that would be the person. How about this one...
Remove restrictions on selling alcohol so that anyone, any age, any sobriety can buy in any store. Would the resulting (likely) increase in traffic fatalities be due to the alcohol availability or the person consuming it?
Remove restrictions on selling alcohol so that anyone, any age, any sobriety can buy in any store. Would the resulting (likely) increase in traffic fatalities be due to the alcohol availability or the person consuming it?
#21
Re: Mass shooting in Texas
An odd analogy, but that would be the person. How about this one...
Remove restrictions on selling alcohol so that anyone, any age, any sobriety can buy in any store. Would the resulting (likely) increase in traffic fatalities be due to the alcohol availability or the person consuming it?
Remove restrictions on selling alcohol so that anyone, any age, any sobriety can buy in any store. Would the resulting (likely) increase in traffic fatalities be due to the alcohol availability or the person consuming it?
#22
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Re: Mass shooting in Texas
This has to be the most infuriating argument used by Republicans all the time.
Of course the person is wielding the gun, but without it they would not be able to so easily inflict fatal and severe violence to so many people at once.
Isn't it obvious?
It's like living in an alternate universe with people whom use this logic.
But America has really upped its game - doing away with laws which would have prohibited people with mental illnesses to own guns, ot putting in checks and balances etc. They were considering laws to allow silencers to be easily purchased but "put it on hold" after the Las Vegas massacre.
Of course the person is wielding the gun, but without it they would not be able to so easily inflict fatal and severe violence to so many people at once.
Isn't it obvious?
It's like living in an alternate universe with people whom use this logic.
But America has really upped its game - doing away with laws which would have prohibited people with mental illnesses to own guns, ot putting in checks and balances etc. They were considering laws to allow silencers to be easily purchased but "put it on hold" after the Las Vegas massacre.
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#23
Re: Mass shooting in Texas
This has to be the most infuriating argument used by Republicans all the time.
Of course the person is wielding the gun, but without it they would not be able to so easily inflict fatal and severe violence to so many people at once.
Isn't it obvious?
It's like living in an alternate universe with people whom use this logic.
But america has really upped its game - doing away with laws which would have prohibited people with mental illnesses to own guns, putting in checks and balances etc.
Of course the person is wielding the gun, but without it they would not be able to so easily inflict fatal and severe violence to so many people at once.
Isn't it obvious?
It's like living in an alternate universe with people whom use this logic.
But america has really upped its game - doing away with laws which would have prohibited people with mental illnesses to own guns, putting in checks and balances etc.
#27
Re: Mass shooting in Texas
Also you can correct a spelling mistake and it hardly does much harm.
A gun is designed to kill and maim at speed. The only reason you'd wish to own one is because that is your intention someday.
#28
Re: Mass shooting in Texas
Are you seriously suggesting that the only reason we do is because we wish to kill something some day?
I can't speak for Dbd33 but I own a shotgun for the sole purpose of shooting clays pigeons.
In the UK, did Malcolm Cooper own his weapon because he wanted to kill something, or because he liked shooting at paper targets?
#29
Re: Mass shooting in Texas
I own a number of weapons. I believe Dbd33 does too.
Are you seriously suggesting that the only reason we do is because we wish to kill something some day?
I can't speak for Dbd33 but I own a shotgun for the sole purpose of shooting clays pigeons.
In the UK, did Malcolm Cooper own his weapon because he wanted to kill something, or because he liked shooting at paper targets?
Are you seriously suggesting that the only reason we do is because we wish to kill something some day?
I can't speak for Dbd33 but I own a shotgun for the sole purpose of shooting clays pigeons.
In the UK, did Malcolm Cooper own his weapon because he wanted to kill something, or because he liked shooting at paper targets?
I don't expect to shoot any people in any circumstance.
#30
Re: Mass shooting in Texas
I own a number of weapons. I believe Dbd33 does too.
Are you seriously suggesting that the only reason we do is because we wish to kill something some day?
I can't speak for Dbd33 but I own a shotgun for the sole purpose of shooting clays pigeons.
In the UK, did Malcolm Cooper own his weapon because he wanted to kill something, or because he liked shooting at paper targets?
Are you seriously suggesting that the only reason we do is because we wish to kill something some day?
I can't speak for Dbd33 but I own a shotgun for the sole purpose of shooting clays pigeons.
In the UK, did Malcolm Cooper own his weapon because he wanted to kill something, or because he liked shooting at paper targets?