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Old May 23rd 2007, 6:45 pm
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Originally Posted by James22
Het stu

Can the ARTC be sorted out from uk end, have a freind in Melbourne I could Use as a fixed address to get it sent to. Got an email from ARTC today to say sort it out when you get here basically. Just thought this was a bit odd???
good luck with your application mate
yes email them for an application form using the address on here

http://www.workplace.gov.au/workplac...alianresidents

use your mates address in aus for the reply and an email address for day to day correspondance

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Nice one steve o!!!

Thanks for your info mate much appreciated!

p.s concrats on getting your licence through mate
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Old May 23rd 2007, 7:15 pm
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Hi you don't need help. If you want to work you will find it. Cash work is always out there believe me. I listened to all the sh.. you get on this forum. Every state is differen't. Best to get your papers recognized is Queensland desperate for tradees. Walk in walk out new papers in hand. Next NSW. And finally Victoria a bit an..y retarded. I know a plumber working in the docks, and a electrician who's now a salesman. Both got fed up with waiting for there papers to come back. Sorry but i get very annoyed with the system, they are desperate for all trades, but make it as difficult as possible for new tradees.
Well enough of my rant my advice is to go to Rockhampton (queensland) get your papers converted and get a job at the mines $800-$1000 a day.(Thats what a truckie gets).
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Hi you don't need help. If you want to work you will find it. Cash work is always out there believe me. I listened to all the sh.. you get on this forum. Every state is differen't. Best to get your papers recognized is Queensland desperate for tradees. Walk in walk out new papers in hand. Next NSW. And finally Victoria a bit an..y retarded. I know a plumber working in the docks, and a electrician who's now a salesman. Both got fed up with waiting for there papers to come back. Sorry but i get very annoyed with the system, they are desperate for all trades, but make it as difficult as possible for new tradees.
Well enough of my rant my advice is to go to Rockhampton (queensland) get your papers converted and get a job at the mines $800-$1000 a day.(Thats what a truckie gets).
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I take it youve had a bad time of it????

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James, you will also find it almost impossible to get a company to sponsor you reason being the company must advertise for a australian resident for the position 1st then & only then if they can prove they are unable to get an australian resident to fill the position the company may seek permission to advertise or apply for a person over seas, sounds crap but thats what they do mate here.

As for licensing & people saying you can get work thats crap its illegal & with you being on a working vise if you do the wrong thing you wont be accepted for migration for a minimum of 5 years, ask yourself mate is that avenue worth a toss i dont think so. ask Wendy also Ask Stev'o here they will be honest & both have all people interest at heart.

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Old May 24th 2007, 7:20 am
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James, you will also find it almost impossible to get a company to sponsor you reason being the company must advertise for a australian resident for the position 1st then & only then if they can prove they are unable to get an australian resident to fill the position the company may seek permission to advertise or apply for a person over seas, sounds crap but thats what they do mate here.

As for licensing & people saying you can get work thats crap its illegal & with you being on a working vise if you do the wrong thing you wont be accepted for migration for a minimum of 5 years, ask yourself mate is that avenue worth a toss i dont think so. ask Wendy also Ask Stev'o here they will be honest & both have all people interest at heart.

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lots of things are illegal but it doesnt mean they dont happen. ive seen all sorts since ive been over here.apprentices and ta's running jobs and unsupervised, backpackers working as tradies. its not right but it does happen. to say its not possible to find work in a trade without the correct licences means youve got your head in the sand. he could work as a ta and im pretty sure you dont need any licences or qualifications to be a ta.
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youngy73, i dont have my head in the sand mate i know what the score is i also know people do work without a license, however i would not tell someone to actually do what may be suggested imagine if you actually said you can do work as a spark for us and he gets caught, how would you then feel as he kops the bare end of it all im not saying you would do that. But Murphy's law as we know the poor sod may just get caught and non of us want that at all.

so im not having a go at you mate, im hopefully trying to steer him away from breaking the law, as for T/S'a working as trades people i dont think they would let them do that,

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James, you will also find it almost impossible to get a company to sponsor you reason being the company must advertise for a australian resident for the position 1st then & only then if they can prove they are unable to get an australian resident to fill the position the company may seek permission to advertise or apply for a person over seas, sounds crap but thats what they do mate here.

As for licensing & people saying you can get work thats crap its illegal & with you being on a working vise if you do the wrong thing you wont be accepted for migration for a minimum of 5 years, ask yourself mate is that avenue worth a toss i dont think so. ask Wendy also Ask Stev'o here they will be honest & both have all people interest at heart.

regards

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Hi james
we are starting in Sydney, traveling along south coast then ending up in Perth where we got an apartment booked for 3 months.

You get kinda mixed messages on here, and i know people are trying to be helpful, but usually take advice and just do what i was going to do anyway. You gotta take chances in life, theres always a way round things if you want it enough. One thing i'm doing is sending of my qualifications to be assesed and converted into WA equivilents, cheap to do and can't do any harm. Also how many polish divs do you see sparkying over here with out proper quals or licences? loads so cant imagine that situation is exclusive to uk. Worst case scenario i'm looking at is getting electricans mate work tru an agency. If you want to know what i've done so far re. getting licensed email me jamiewright678 @ btinternet .com (obviously without the gaps) (and apologies if your not supposed to put email addresses on here)
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Old May 26th 2007, 8:50 pm
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Originally Posted by jamiefrod
Hi james
we are starting in Sydney, traveling along south coast then ending up in Perth where we got an apartment booked for 3 months.

You get kinda mixed messages on here, and i know people are trying to be helpful, but usually take advice and just do what i was going to do anyway. You gotta take chances in life, theres always a way round things if you want it enough. One thing i'm doing is sending of my qualifications to be assesed and converted into WA equivilents, cheap to do and can't do any harm. Also how many polish divs do you see sparkying over here with out proper quals or licences? loads so cant imagine that situation is exclusive to uk. Worst case scenario i'm looking at is getting electricans mate work tru an agency. If you want to know what i've done so far re. getting licensed email me xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx(obviously without the gaps) (and apologies if your not supposed to put email addresses on here)

james you would be better pm`ing the guy as putting your email address on a public forum is inviting all sorts of wankers to send all sorts of shite


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Originally Posted by Wendy
The ARTC is just an assessment to see that your UK qualifiactions are the equivalent to what a Australian qualification is, or that you have the same amount of knowledge as them if you haven't got your certificates. Also that you have the relevant amount of on the job experience, which is 4 years if you have done a formal apprentiship. 5 years if it was informal, and 7 year if you didn't do one. The TRA will assess whether you have the skills equivalent to an Electrical Mechanic, or Electrical Fitter.

On the licence front, all electricians need one to work here. In Queensland an Electrical Mechanic can apply for a full unrestricted licence, whereas an Electrical Fitter can only apply for a restricted licence and can only work supervised.
Hi everybody i need some advice here I just got my TRA back and they've classed me as a general electrician (4311-11) is this alright . when i apply for a licence can i apply as an electrical mechanic .I'm going to Perth WA if I ever get my visa

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Old Jun 2nd 2007, 7:50 pm
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Hi everybody i need some advice here I just got my TRA back and they've classed me as a general electrician (4311-11) is this alright . when i apply for a licence can i apply as an electrical mechanic .I'm going to Perth WA if I ever get my visa

Regards the dooners

and good luck everybody

yes thats the one you want

congrats on the tra


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ps get your artc sorted before going to aus as it will speed things up no end
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Hi everybody i need some advice here I just got my TRA back and they've classed me as a general electrician (4311-11) is this alright . when i apply for a licence can i apply as an electrical mechanic .I'm going to Perth WA if I ever get my visa

Regards the dooners

and good luck everybody

Congratulations on passing the TRA

As Steve said, that's the right class for you to apply for your migration visa. Your ARTC will be classed as mechanic or fitter depending on what info you give them, so make sure there is lots of connect/disconnect stuff in there
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Congratulations on passing the TRA

As Steve said, that's the right class for you to apply for your migration visa. Your ARTC will be classed as mechanic or fitter depending on what info you give them, so make sure there is lots of connect/disconnect stuff in there
Thanks for that puts my mind to rest about 1 thing just another million other things to worry about now.

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Hiya

We have just got hubby's TRA too and he is a general electrician. Am I right in thinking that to apply for the ARTC you can apply from England but need to give an Oz address? Also do you just send the same things through again that we sent with the TRA application?

Thanks for your help.

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Old Jun 4th 2007, 8:41 am
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Hiya

We have just got hubby's TRA too and he is a general electrician. Am I right in thinking that to apply for the ARTC you can apply from England but need to give an Oz address? Also do you just send the same things through again that we sent with the TRA application?

Thanks for your help.

you seem to have the right end of the stick, but you will have to wait untill you have your visa as you have to provide evidence that you are entitled to work here. so you have to send a copy of your visa. apart from that evrything is the same, or at least thats what i did and i got my trade qualification in the post today
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