Shrimps On The Barbie
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I've been looking into Deepfakes, online. I can't for the life of me figure out how to avoid the danger of being falsely accused of being present, anywhere at all. A mugger's or burglar's face is replaced by my face; and his clothes are replaced by my clothes. How in God's name can I convince the police that it wasn't me - if I was at home by myself reading a book? Is there a way? I'm guessing that there is a way, but...! I mean, surely there's a way! Is there any techie here who can get me out of jail?
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I've been looking into Deepfakes, online. I can't for the life of me figure out how to avoid the danger of being falsely accused of being present, anywhere at all. A mugger's or burglar's face is replaced by my face; and his clothes are replaced by my clothes. How in God's name can I convince the police that it wasn't me - if I was at home by myself reading a book? Is there a way? I'm guessing that there is a way, but...! I mean, surely there's a way! Is there any techie here who can get me out of jail?
President Biden is having a crack at it https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-67261284 but enforcing such measures on a global scale will take a bit of effort.
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Here's another shrimp to throw on the barbie: unusual usages of taboo- or cuss-words. One I had never heard before was posted recently on the "Australia's earliest settlers" thread - post #23: "Those who stir the ****pot should have to lick the spoon".
Very evocative. A trifle coarse, if the four asterisks represent the S-WORD - and extremely coarse if they stand for the C-WORD. A C-WORD-pot might seem unlikely, but I recall the use of the C-WORD from my school-days in Australia, in the expression "As useless as a C-WORD-ful of cold water!" So Sparky's use has a precedent, of sorts. The soft version, was "... a cup-ful of cold water" - which of course was utterly meaningless, and only used in mixed company.
I know that the word BERK is a kind of equivalent of the C-WORD in parts of England as a term of abuse, and there is a T-WORD that serves the same purpose these days. Are there any others of interest that the BE community would like to share with us?
Very evocative. A trifle coarse, if the four asterisks represent the S-WORD - and extremely coarse if they stand for the C-WORD. A C-WORD-pot might seem unlikely, but I recall the use of the C-WORD from my school-days in Australia, in the expression "As useless as a C-WORD-ful of cold water!" So Sparky's use has a precedent, of sorts. The soft version, was "... a cup-ful of cold water" - which of course was utterly meaningless, and only used in mixed company.
I know that the word BERK is a kind of equivalent of the C-WORD in parts of England as a term of abuse, and there is a T-WORD that serves the same purpose these days. Are there any others of interest that the BE community would like to share with us?
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Re: Shrimps On The Barbie
Here's another shrimp to throw on the barbie: unusual usages of taboo- or cuss-words. One I had never heard before was posted recently on the "Australia's earliest settlers" thread - post #23: "Those who stir the ****pot should have to lick the spoon".
Very evocative. A trifle coarse, if the four asterisks represent the S-WORD - and extremely coarse if they stand for the C-WORD. A C-WORD-pot might seem unlikely, but I recall the use of the C-WORD from my school-days in Australia, in the expression "As useless as a C-WORD-ful of cold water!" So Sparky's use has a precedent, of sorts. The soft version, was "... a cup-ful of cold water" - which of course was utterly meaningless, and only used in mixed company.
I know that the word BERK is a kind of equivalent of the C-WORD in parts of England as a term of abuse, and there is a T-WORD that serves the same purpose these days. Are there any others of interest that the BE community would like to share with us?
Very evocative. A trifle coarse, if the four asterisks represent the S-WORD - and extremely coarse if they stand for the C-WORD. A C-WORD-pot might seem unlikely, but I recall the use of the C-WORD from my school-days in Australia, in the expression "As useless as a C-WORD-ful of cold water!" So Sparky's use has a precedent, of sorts. The soft version, was "... a cup-ful of cold water" - which of course was utterly meaningless, and only used in mixed company.
I know that the word BERK is a kind of equivalent of the C-WORD in parts of England as a term of abuse, and there is a T-WORD that serves the same purpose these days. Are there any others of interest that the BE community would like to share with us?
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On the same general theme... Once in my presence a female friend referred to somebody as the four-letter TW-WORD, which I'm not allowed to mention on BE but which I hope I can say ended in -AT. I was taken aback and said "Judy, you can't say that!" Why not, she asked. "Because it's a very rude word!" I said, and told her to ask her husband what it was. I assume he backed me up, because I never heard her say it again. It's become more common than it used to be, which is a sign of the times, I guess.
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You may well be right, Polly, but most amateur etymologists - and many professional ones too - reckon that "berk" began as an abbreviation for Berkshire Hunt, which itself was rhyming slang for you-know-what.
On the same general theme... Once in my presence a female friend referred to somebody as the four-letter TW-WORD, which I'm not allowed to mention on BE but which I hope I can say ended in -AT. I was taken aback and said "Judy, you can't say that!" Why not, she asked. "Because it's a very rude word!" I said, and told her to ask her husband what it was. I assume he backed me up, because I never heard her say it again. It's become more common than it used to be, which is a sign of the times, I guess.
On the same general theme... Once in my presence a female friend referred to somebody as the four-letter TW-WORD, which I'm not allowed to mention on BE but which I hope I can say ended in -AT. I was taken aback and said "Judy, you can't say that!" Why not, she asked. "Because it's a very rude word!" I said, and told her to ask her husband what it was. I assume he backed me up, because I never heard her say it again. It's become more common than it used to be, which is a sign of the times, I guess.
And the original comment related to stirring the sh**. If I wanted to say c***, I'd probably (and have done in the past) go with twunt (learned from the missed Sultan )
ETA - or ankle - someone lower than a c.
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You may well be right, Polly, but most amateur etymologists - and many professional ones too - reckon that "berk" began as an abbreviation for Berkshire Hunt, which itself was rhyming slang for you-know-what.
On the same general theme... Once in my presence a female friend referred to somebody as the four-letter TW-WORD, which I'm not allowed to mention on BE but which I hope I can say ended in -AT. I was taken aback and said "Judy, you can't say that!" Why not, she asked. "Because it's a very rude word!" I said, and told her to ask her husband what it was. I assume he backed me up, because I never heard her say it again. It's become more common than it used to be, which is a sign of the times, I guess.
On the same general theme... Once in my presence a female friend referred to somebody as the four-letter TW-WORD, which I'm not allowed to mention on BE but which I hope I can say ended in -AT. I was taken aback and said "Judy, you can't say that!" Why not, she asked. "Because it's a very rude word!" I said, and told her to ask her husband what it was. I assume he backed me up, because I never heard her say it again. It's become more common than it used to be, which is a sign of the times, I guess.
The other T word, and the C word are not ones that I give house-room too.
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I always assumed berk was a fairly benign expletive. Definitely not in the same league at the c-word.
I nominate skitter, a term used in Ireland to signify hot splattering cow poo at the moment of expulsion (once cooled, it’s a cow pat) but equally, a term for a naughty child or a blatant, devious, nuisance person. Or a cheeky chancer. All depends on context.
I nominate skitter, a term used in Ireland to signify hot splattering cow poo at the moment of expulsion (once cooled, it’s a cow pat) but equally, a term for a naughty child or a blatant, devious, nuisance person. Or a cheeky chancer. All depends on context.
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My Grandma used to say, "I don't care a fig about (whatever)!" Did her "fig" have any relationship to the wicked F-WORD, do you think? I suspect it had the same origin, possibly religious. Worth chucking that on the barbie?.
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It is possible to use exclamations and phrases without resorting to swear words, both now & years ago! My Gran used to say it too, as did my Great-Gran, and they wouldn't have dreamt of using anything vaguely resembling swear words, that'd be a wash-your-mouth-out-with-soap-several-times incident. Figs to us were fruit that grew on trees in the garden. Maybe your upbringing was based in a more slangy atmosphere than mine!!
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Chuck it where you like but I do wonder about some of your ideas!
It is possible to use exclamations and phrases without resorting to swear words, both now & years ago! My Gran used to say it too, as did my Great-Gran, and they wouldn't have dreamt of using anything vaguely resembling swear words, that'd be a wash-your-mouth-out-with-soap-several-times incident. Figs to us were fruit that grew on trees in the garden. Maybe your upbringing was based in a more slangy atmosphere than mine!!
It is possible to use exclamations and phrases without resorting to swear words, both now & years ago! My Gran used to say it too, as did my Great-Gran, and they wouldn't have dreamt of using anything vaguely resembling swear words, that'd be a wash-your-mouth-out-with-soap-several-times incident. Figs to us were fruit that grew on trees in the garden. Maybe your upbringing was based in a more slangy atmosphere than mine!!
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Why do you think so? I read that it’s come via an archaic Spanish gesture equivalent to the v-sign.
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Here's another shrimp to throw on the barbie: unusual usages of taboo- or cuss-words. One I had never heard before was posted recently on the "Australia's earliest settlers" thread - post #23: "Those who stir the ****pot should have to lick the spoon".
Very evocative. A trifle coarse, if the four asterisks represent the S-WORD - and extremely coarse if they stand for the C-WORD. A C-WORD-pot might seem unlikely, but I recall the use of the C-WORD from my school-days in Australia, in the expression "As useless as a C-WORD-ful of cold water!" So Sparky's use has a precedent, of sorts. The soft version, was "... a cup-ful of cold water" - which of course was utterly meaningless, and only used in mixed company.
I know that the word BERK is a kind of equivalent of the C-WORD in parts of England as a term of abuse, and there is a T-WORD that serves the same purpose these days. Are there any others of interest that the BE community would like to share with us?
Very evocative. A trifle coarse, if the four asterisks represent the S-WORD - and extremely coarse if they stand for the C-WORD. A C-WORD-pot might seem unlikely, but I recall the use of the C-WORD from my school-days in Australia, in the expression "As useless as a C-WORD-ful of cold water!" So Sparky's use has a precedent, of sorts. The soft version, was "... a cup-ful of cold water" - which of course was utterly meaningless, and only used in mixed company.
I know that the word BERK is a kind of equivalent of the C-WORD in parts of England as a term of abuse, and there is a T-WORD that serves the same purpose these days. Are there any others of interest that the BE community would like to share with us?
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Polly, you really do jump to some odd conclusions! How could you even think that I was accusing our sainted Grandmas of being aware of any connection between "fig" and some unspeakably wicked word? I asked if any BE reader might think there was a connection. Read my post again and you will (I hope) understand where you went wrong. I'm guessing that your upbringing was overly strict, enough to lead you to unreasonable suspicions! Yes?
I just don't understand why you think these harmless slang terms which have been around since time immemorial have anything to do with swear words such as those you are hinting at. But then I don't get the point of much of the stuff you bang on about