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Old Oct 28th 2017, 3:29 am   #256
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Spot on. We should be leasing/buying nuclear powered Virginia-class SSNs from the US. One third of the cost of the French clockwork subs and with 12 of them, nobody could f**k with us. Nobody

The argument that we lack the nuclear infrastructure is bullshit. The USN forward bases Virginia-class boats in Guam and sends them back to San Diego for major servicing. Same could happen here - but alas it never will

Politics and pork-barreling overcome national defence unfortunately

This is completely true - and let's also not forget they will also end up being based in SA, so it takes days to get them on station where they are needed. The same with our sea patrol aircraft. It's brilliant that they have to fly across the continent to spend a couple of hours on station before having to fly all the way back again.


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Old Oct 28th 2017, 11:14 am   #257
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Ahhh for f...

...Look we just got a New Labour (capitalisation is correct, Jacinda is a Blair-ite) government. Why don't you petition them to issue Barnaby with a New Zealand passport and refuse to acknowledge his revocation of New Zealand citizenship.
Now that would be gold. It would turn the constitution into more turmoil.
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Old Oct 28th 2017, 11:18 am   #258
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On a serious note - an exception is made if someone tries to renounce but the foreign country doesn't allow it. So Barnaby's seat would be safe if he tried to renounce but New Zealand refused to allow it.
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On a serious note - an exception is made if someone tries to renounce but the foreign country doesn't allow it. So Barnaby's seat would be safe if he tried to renounce but New Zealand refused to allow it.
One thing that did come out was that "all reasonable efforts" meant reasonable on the part of the country, not the individual. So if the country had a process, then the individual had to follow it. It's only when it didn't have a reasonable process (eg Iran) that the individual could get away with just the attempt.

Which means just applying to renounce isn't good enough, you HAVE to go through all the steps that a reasonable country requires.
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https://www.theguardian.com/australi...al-citizenship

I get the feeling we'll have more as we get closer to the 1st Dec.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY0WxgSXdEE

https://www.theguardian.com/australi...al-citizenship

I get the feeling we'll have more as we get closer to the 1st Dec.
Oh yes. No one has investigated the Labor party yet. Penny Wong still hiding. Plenty more to come.
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