Why do we miss out on so much with a 457 Visa
Feb 24th 2009, 2:23 am
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Re: Why do we miss out on so much with a 457 Visa
tut tut tut,
so you saying you have moved to a diffrent country and stright away you want to clame benefits.
that one of the biggest reasons i want to leave this one!
it wont be long before Australians are moving here to get away from the English scrounging off there state.
sorry if you think thats harsh but its what it says on the tin!
so you saying you have moved to a diffrent country and stright away you want to clame benefits.
that one of the biggest reasons i want to leave this one!
it wont be long before Australians are moving here to get away from the English scrounging off there state.
sorry if you think thats harsh but its what it says on the tin!
Feb 24th 2009, 2:28 am
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Re: Why do we miss out on so much with a 457 Visa
On my 457 I have to wait 2 years till I can apply for PR, Im sure if im wrong I will be corrected.
Is it possible to go from a 457 straight to Citizenship ? and if so how long do I have to wait since landing here ??
Is it possible to go from a 457 straight to Citizenship ? and if so how long do I have to wait since landing here ??
Feb 24th 2009, 2:31 am
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Re: Why do we miss out on so much with a 457 Visa
You can not go from 457 to citizenship but time on a 457 may count towards it.
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Feb 24th 2009, 2:32 am
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Re: Why do we miss out on so much with a 457 Visa
Citizenship is a 4 year residence requirement. You can use up to 3 years of temp residency towards that requirement but the last 12 months has to be as a PR. You can apply for PR prior to 2 years, the 2 years just does away with a skills assessment. If you have a positive skills assessment and a skill in demand you can apply at any time.
Feb 24th 2009, 2:37 am
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Re: Why do we miss out on so much with a 457 Visa
tut tut tut,
so you saying you have moved to a diffrent country and stright away you want to clame benefits.
that one of the biggest reasons i want to leave this one!
it wont be long before Australians are moving here to get away from the English scrounging off there state.
sorry if you think thats harsh but its what it says on the tin!
so you saying you have moved to a diffrent country and stright away you want to clame benefits.
that one of the biggest reasons i want to leave this one!
it wont be long before Australians are moving here to get away from the English scrounging off there state.
sorry if you think thats harsh but its what it says on the tin!
Feb 24th 2009, 4:10 am
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Re: Why do we miss out on so much with a 457 Visa
457 has no bearing on whether you get the latest handout. Whether you paid tax in 2007/08 and your income in that year doe matter.
As a 457 you are not eligible for family tax benefit and THEREFORE not eligible for the "back to school bonus" or whatever they call it.
As you know you are not eligibile for various other things including the child care tax rebate thingy.
You are ELIGIBLE for LAFHA, but it is not something you claim from the ATO, it is something your employer offers (within acceptable ATO guidelines) or does not.
For many (if not all) 457ers, the LAFHA can result in ADDITIONAL income of $1000-2000/month; significantly more than any benfits you could get if you were PR and had been here 2 years.
As also said elsewhere; there is no time requirement to be on 457 before being PR. PR has rules and methods that determine what timeframes you may need to have been in the country but that has NOTHING to do with 457 per se.
Becoming citizen DOES allow you to count up to 3 years as a legal resident (for which your 457 qualifies).
Methinks you need to see if you can get LAFHA or not from your employer. It only costs them administration; it is the ATO (and be definition all other taxpayers) who will "pay" for you to receive that benefit.
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Feb 24th 2009, 4:48 am
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Feb 24th 2009, 4:48 am
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Re: Why do we miss out on so much with a 457 Visa
i live in the uk and dont clame a penny. we could but dont because we can survive without it. we have a child and on a single income but we live within our means. if we cant afford something like a holiday we wont take one. i know people who clame child tax credits but go on two some three holidays a year. IMO that is wrong. that is not what tax credits are there for. they are supposed to make life easier not make life a doddle. we wouldnt be in the mess were in now if only those who really needed help got it!
how many people can say they clam tax credits because they couldn't survive without them?
my mother-in-law died of cancer last summer ages 55. while she was disabled with cancer she wasn't entitled to a penny because she hadn't been working for 5 years consecutive or claiming unemployment benefit previous. she didn't clame unemployment benefit because she didn't need it so why should she.
how many people can say they clam tax credits because they couldn't survive without them?
my mother-in-law died of cancer last summer ages 55. while she was disabled with cancer she wasn't entitled to a penny because she hadn't been working for 5 years consecutive or claiming unemployment benefit previous. she didn't clame unemployment benefit because she didn't need it so why should she.
I think the OP was more annoyed that he would even get zero from the stimulus package although that has hopefully proved to be incorrect.
Last edited by hoofie2002; Feb 24th 2009 at 4:52 am. Reason: Qualify Original Posters comments
Feb 24th 2009, 5:00 am
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Re: Why do we miss out on so much with a 457 Visa
Feb 24th 2009, 5:05 am
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Re: Why do we miss out on so much with a 457 Visa
a) Did you pay tax in 2007/08 in Australia?
b) fif you earn under $100,000 in 2007/08?
If yes to both then yes you will get it.
b) fif you earn under $100,000 in 2007/08?
If yes to both then yes you will get it.
Feb 24th 2009, 5:07 am
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Re: Why do we miss out on so much with a 457 Visa
I arrived in oz dec07 started working feb 08 as soon as work permit was granted so yes i am still working now and got my tax return last year! im getting a bit excited now!!
Feb 24th 2009, 5:28 am
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Re: Why do we miss out on so much with a 457 Visa
So did you fill out a tax return for 2007/08 yet? If so did you end up a net payer of tax?
Roughly, if you earnt over $6000 between starting work and the end of the year (30 June 08) then you will have paid tax and will be entitled to the free money; in your case likley the full amount ($900 or whatever it is)
Roughly, if you earnt over $6000 between starting work and the end of the year (30 June 08) then you will have paid tax and will be entitled to the free money; in your case likley the full amount ($900 or whatever it is)
Feb 24th 2009, 6:21 am
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Re: Why do we miss out on so much with a 457 Visa
If you want all the rights and privileges of being a permanent resident then you need to be....a permanent resident.
Sorry to be so harsh but that's the way it is.
As you say you probably should have researched it more. Hopefully your feelings will encourage others considering a 457 visa to make sure they have studied it properly.
Sorry to be so harsh but that's the way it is.
As you say you probably should have researched it more. Hopefully your feelings will encourage others considering a 457 visa to make sure they have studied it properly.
Feb 25th 2009, 1:34 am
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Re: Why do we miss out on so much with a 457 Visa
So did you fill out a tax return for 2007/08 yet? If so did you end up a net payer of tax?
Roughly, if you earnt over $6000 between starting work and the end of the year (30 June 08) then you will have paid tax and will be entitled to the free money; in your case likley the full amount ($900 or whatever it is)
Roughly, if you earnt over $6000 between starting work and the end of the year (30 June 08) then you will have paid tax and will be entitled to the free money; in your case likley the full amount ($900 or whatever it is)
I have come across quite a few people who think they paid tax last year, (as they paid it weekly from their wages) but do not realise that getting it all rebated after the end of the year, stops them from getting this Bonus.