Originally Posted by bobbyftm

Whilst i agree Valley area is still primarily focussed on clubs there are more bars there now that you could shake a stick at these days and better still they are not hidden in basements or half way up multi story buildings lol. I can think of about 8-10 bars/pubs/certainly not clubs along Constance Street alone which is only leading onto one of the main streets of the Valley. There appears to be a big thing (certainly in Brisbane area) regarding a mass production of boutique/craft real ale bars these days also but the charges they want people to pay for some of these drinks is quite ridiculous imho but where needs must West End of Brisbane is particularly good for these bars and extremely laid back compared to any where else in the city i believe
Found Newtown to be ok last time i was there but must confess not been to Pyrmont other than Pyrmont Bridge Hotel and of course The Star so that's definitely a new area for me to discover thanks Maybe we might take a stroll around that area this weekend Gotta say i do like the Surrey hills area right up from Central station towards Sfs and of course Crown Street and area is always good for a beer or 2 , there's some nice bars there without the lunatic fringe and i'm sure that for every dozen bars i have found there be 2 dozen more i haven't but not quite sure why everyone goes off about The Beresford really ! Any how thanks for the tip on Pyrmont it will be put to good use
Ps we're staying it The X this weekend and i totally agree with you that it was a really good night out in the past but been disappointed with it lately and would rather head to Paddington / Surrey Hills myself these days

Originally Posted by bobbyftm

In Cleveland Sands Tavern lol. Stayed in city last 2 nights but had to give tonight a miss to save money for next weeks Broncos final. Dont worry i shall report back how shit Sydney was just for Mr Beoz then can do the same next month for Mr Buzzy after visiting Melbourne

Originally Posted by astera

Can't say I feel sorry for the Broncos as whenever my team's not playing I usually support the underdogs, but what's Cleveland like btw? Is it worth a day trip from the Gold Coast?

Originally Posted by Beoz

I had a good night out in the Valley from what I recall (or don't recall ). It was a biggen.

I recall the days when Oxford Street was the place to go in Sydney. How times change.

Strangely, I don't mind a night out in Double Bay. The Sheaf is good and there's a number of bars in a backstreet (name escapes me) opposite the Oak. But I'm getting old now so it might just be my age showing.

I find Paddo is no longer what it used to be for late opening stuff. Pubs are still good though.

Originally Posted by WilliamStacey

Since i've been waiting on my Vetassess coming back i've been doing a lot of studying and whenever i mention i'm planning to move people say "the cost of living is so high". Is that a myth because the things that my dad has shown me (he's already over in OZ) has proven this to be comparable with Britain.

Also, my daughter will be 7 and just finishing primary 4, will that be a good age for integrating her school work?

Originally Posted by fish.01

Just note that a lot of people erroneously ignore wages when comparing cost of living.

So when the aussie dollar was really high it seemed high to people who only compare using exchange rates. It won't seem as high now to those people as the exchange rate has dived.

In truth for us living and earning dollars here the exchange rate going up and down against the pound hasn't made a substantial difference to our cost of living. This demonstrates what a flawed way it is to compare. Most of the headlines were also from studies that ignored wages. Useless.

Originally Posted by WilliamStacey

That's what I thought too, having looked at certain things like petrol (cheaper in Oz), meat seems to be cheaper too from what I've been shown, even electrics seem cheaper. I just don't want to have a false sense of what things are going to cost.