northernbird

Generalising is what hit a nerve. This is my home and I am quite happy thankyou.

Deancm

You must be quite sensitive then...

northernbird

That is something I will confess to.

pomtastic

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind - Dr. Seuss

northernbird

I should listen to that more often.

salopian

Exactly. You have stated explicitly what lay implicit in my post. I was rather hoping the 'positivists' would work it out for themselves.

salopian

So negative opinions and generalisations gripe you. Just wondering why positive opinions and generalisations don't?

Perhaps it's got something to do with validation.

northernbird

negative opinions don't bother me, everyone sees things differently. the sweeping generalisations (either positive or negative) about a particular country/area of said country that gripe me.

BadgeIsBack

Some people would be negative for those reasons people give. A minority probably. Not all. Other people just don't recognise the points because their lives are different.

Positive opinions generally don't need to be explained - to be honest. It's a sad day for our advanced society when people start talking about validating their positive posts. I mean - I had a great dinner with friends last night - do I need to prove it? Do I need a certificate? Perhaps every time I enjoy myself I am not after all. Maybe it's all a lie...(!)

It's sad when every post made is debated and assessed on whether it is valid, or what it says about the state of the poster's mind. IMHO.
It seems to be an affliction of the people who are unhappy.

kporte

there is definitely something in this. Not in all cases of course but speaking personally I was very touchy initially about negative Aus posts and this reasoning was , in retrospect, why I was to a good degree. Still love it here but am certainly more balanced in my views. The over the top "knocking" posts of either Aus or the UK still make me laugh though. Anyone who can be so totally negative about either place is just simply wrong.

ABCDiamond

Sensible negative posts don't bother many people at all.
But the over the top ones generalisations may bother the people who prefer to see the reality.

Also if many of these over the top generalisations are read by people considering moving, they could well end up with lack of confidence, and you will then be proved correct in your statements. Nothing to do with low esteem though, just being fed with over generalisations by some people.

salopian

But the over the top positive generalisations are ok.

ABCDiamond

Name some and I will let you know.

Weebie

The real problem with UK migrants is where they're moving. They are so into having a big house they forget about location. In Perth for instance it's secret harbour, Mindarie, Joondalup, Ellenbrook etc. There are all areas that most middleclass Perthites for instance would regard as lower class shitholes. Move in a better area but less room like a townhouse and I think you would enjoy Perth more. Same applys for all Australian cities. Basically Australian property developers are scamming people into awful dangerous suburbs with the lure of a pretty new house. Frankston in Melbourne is another area in which I am absolutely confused why someone would want to go there. If you meet any Sydneysider the first thing they'll ask you is "where do you live?" location is important here and people will judge you on that.

Another factor in Australia that people fail to realize is that job classifications are a lot more snobbish here. (Not pointing out anything in particular) but in the UK being a Bricklayer or a Hairdresser etc is a respectable trade where as here it's not. Notice how Australians don't have funny titles for there Jobs?? Australians won't do many of these jobs (Police is a good example) and that is why there is a demand for migrants from the UK to settle here whilst compared to other countries such as America or even the UK a lot of the migrants coming here would have no chance of qualifying for a visa.

Many Irish backpackers here in Perth always complain how they can never get attractive girls in Australia because as soon as they find out there job profession during conversation the girl simply is not interested.

As a previous poster indicated a lot of them are just bogans with a funny accents.

Sorry if this offends anyone but as a Perthite who has spent considerable time in the UK what I've said is very accurate.

Australia has some great things and some bad things (same as the UK) My advice is when migrating to Australia treat it as a new adventure and not some escape from the UK becouse life looks so dandy on neighbours.

A funny reason why some people migrate to the UK is that they're sick of immigrants yet Australia is one of the most diverse countries in the world. makes no sense?

Weebie

One more thing which I think some people will agree on.

In the mid eighties when South Africans moved to Perth they made very good decisions. The rand was strong and property and housing affordable was cheap. Many UK and Kiwi migrants who came here in the early 2000s have done exactly the same when you look back on it. Made a good decision to migrate here and it's payed dividends for them.

For new migrants you won't have this luxury and many underestimate how hard things will be for them and in many cases life will be better off back home for them. But you don't know if you don't try and no one wants to have regrets in there life so go for it!!! Just be prepared that it's not the same as it was 5-10 years ago.