Originally Posted by the troubadour

No it is you off target. Perth does have a meth problem but not alone. NSW countryside has the same problems as rural places Australia wide. Wellington for example. But worth looking up what Michael Adams QC said when he was in a position. Interesting stuff but hardly revealing to those in the know. McGowan is an Australian politician so limited expectations should be in order as elsewhere.

Originally Posted by the troubadour

You live in a more miserable place obviously.

Originally Posted by Beoz

There you go. Perhaps next time someone is asking about such a big move, perhaps clarify your position. It should read something like this, sound familiar?

"Perth does have a meth problem but not alone. NSW countryside has the same problems as rural places Australia wide. Wellington for example"



OK, if you insist. Whinging volumes would suggest its more likely you.

Originally Posted by the troubadour

If you call it whinging about a problem impacting on many severely in Australia, that's your call I guess. But points volumes into the reasoning too little is being done to arrest the situation. I do think that you are incapable at looking at any critique objectively, with historical evidence of past comments reflecting that fact. Never mind. Plenty know what's going on. The will to unite and force change though probably still a way off.

Originally Posted by Beoz

You whinge about a lot of things and you do it in such a dramatic way that it requires others to call bullshit. Sure, housing is expensive, where is it not in relation to the average salary, drugs are a problem, in some places worse than others, where is it not?

Just remember your personal grievances should be put into context, location, your personal circumstances, when trying to give advice to others embarking on what can be a life changing mission. It's not fair on people seeking advice otherwise.

Originally Posted by the troubadour

The blight of drugs especially meth, is not a personal grievance, but something that should be of concern to all Australians. This is an Australia wide problem, impacting severely on rural Australia . But it won't be the deciding factor. Still many Australians don't have experience of it, but at the same time many others do. It could very easily be in or come to your street regardless of location. If so to move it on it can be very hard indeed. If you call that dramatic then you have lived a very sheltered life. Certainly nothing remotely close to warrant being termed bull shit.

Originally Posted by Beoz

You really need to stop drinking the Mark McGowan koolaid tiger.

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Originally Posted by the troubadour

The blight of drugs especially meth, is not a personal grievance, but something that should be of concern to all Australians. This is an Australia wide problem, impacting severely on rural Australia . But it won't be the deciding factor. Still many Australians don't have experience of it, but at the same time many others do. It could very easily be in or come to your street regardless of location. If so to move it on it can be very hard indeed. If you call that dramatic then you have lived a very sheltered life. Certainly nothing remotely close to warrant being termed bull shit.

Originally Posted by the troubadour

Just to note further on this matter of drugs and especially suspected meth or ice. A friend of my partner, only vaguely interested previously in out trials and tribulations around the out of hand drug issue, is now very interested indeed. She lives in a very middleclass suburb (Duncraig) never been exposed to anything untoward in the close on thirty years been resident there, until renters moved in and alarm bells went off around drug concerns with the usual excesses. . Now five months later, after complaints which resulted in police smashing down the front door and taking away a suspect. Sadly no such police intervention in my location. Quite the opposite in fact.

Originally Posted by the troubadour

Well McGowan may yet save you poor little Sydney Siders from yourselves. Royalties obviously assisting your economy that comes out of the WA ground. Now turbo immigration has all but ceased earning Sydney a bit of a breather, best use this period period wisely.

Originally Posted by Beoz

Not a good job of vetting the tenants right?

Originally Posted by Beoz

Turbo immigration will be back before you know it. We can't find enough people to work unfortunately. The construction industry over here is one of the big casualties. So many people and businesses willing to spend money, no one to do the work, knock on effect = less tax revenue.

I do hope you are finally getting on that property ladder before the immigrants steal your thunder again.

Originally Posted by the troubadour

Nothing to do with the shortage of workers but plenty to do with keeping inflated house prices from crashing and wages down. When so many 'professionals' end up security guards, supermarket workers and trolley boys, it doesn't take much nonce to arrive at the reality that this country is being undermined from within. More a question of not enough jobs, and/or trying working conditions in so many areas.

Originally Posted by the troubadour

Wrong. As mentioned it is a finely tuned process in my area. Impossible to vet when applicants present with professional qualifications and often children (at least part of the time) and cats and dogs to express respectability. Obviously in more run down areas this may not be the case but in my manor appears the norm. Letting agencies turn a blind side, saying the premises presents well on inspection. But even when one place later experienced kicked down doors and some sixteen hours a day of 'cooking' , due process to be followed as accordance to law was cited. A very shoddy outcome al round, highly suggestive of nasty things influencing outcomes with little chance of rectification.

Originally Posted by the troubadour

You saw injecting rooms in CH. Well how about that? Why look so far and not look closer to your adopted country Australia. The first opened here in Kings Cross way back at the turn of the century. Melbourne has at least one in Richmond as well. While drugs have long been an issue in Australia, meth and similar drugs take it to another level. We in Australia are probably the biggest users of this rather horrible drug, which can create extreme violence and psychotic episodes in people. Don't write it off as just another drug. It is having a major impact within society and is everywhere impacting severely on many . It is certainly an issue to keep in mind and the reality is Australia doesn't differ much these days on a living basis outside of weather and a few related things. UK has a free health system as well as a pension not means tested , (to compensate ) Further, I would be looking at something more evident to support claim around Australia's position in where to be born, rather than relying on 2013 figures. Over inflated housing prices, stagnating pay rates for money, poor aged care provision, not to say corruption that keeps raising its head in many areas of local government and beyond, before we even get to the drug problem are all suggestive of far lower rating.

Originally Posted by Beoz

Property is going through the roof without immigration. I would not let immigration bother you on that front. Just get on it before it gets further beyond your reach which it probably already has again.

Professional trolley boys? Yeah right.