UncleKev

very well written reply Ronan.

I think this thread probably needs to get back on track. The heading is "crime in Melbourne"

Is there crime in Melbourne? Yes, but very low by world standards

Is there racist crime in Melbourne? Yes, but very low by world standards

Are Indians being targeted for being Indians. I very much doubt it. I think that anyone who travels late at night on public transport in the Melbourne western suburbs will have horror stories to tell. This side of Melbourne has always been where the low income, blue collar workers and the waves of new immigrants first settle, and has always had higher crime rates than other parts of Melbourne.

I feel sorry for anyone who gets bashed and robbed on a train. But trying to link the events together and then having a foreign government stick their noses into Australian policing methods is not going to help.

Neither is disrupting ordinary Australians going about their business and smashing up property going to help.

We only recently had the spectacle of Sri Lankans beating each other up in the streets of Melbourne. Now the public see Indians smashing up proeprty and blocking traffic. From differnt countries, but Joe Public will just see the spectacle of recent immigrants being disrespectful in their new home.

I think they have hurt their image now and will need to do some quick repair work.

There is no way that the Victorian Police are going to be able to provide special protection to any single ethnic group.

All that police can do in any society is to apprahend the criminals and turn them over to the justice system. It seems that many of these recent attackers are in fact being arrested. I really dont think there is much more they can do, other than putting a cop in every railway carriage or arresting suspicious looking people before they commit the crime.

ronan_in_Oz

Thanks UncleKev.. I completely agree with your points and reasoning.. By doing violent protests on the streets, people are alienating themselves further from the mainstream. Doesnt look like a correct thing to me....

moin

I think whoever is at fault at all these crimes....White Australian or other Ethnic immigrants the only real solution should be aimed at resolving the issues at medium to long term. i.e. there is no immediate effective solution and the things just needs to be calmed down and hopefully everyone can get over the whole situation.

concretebob

Hey mpgrewal nice back flip after post #109

ozzieeagle

I think you will find that the Fijian Indians that have settled here over the last 15 years or more, have a totally different expierence to the Indian students.

Uncle Kev is 100 pct correct in his statement re the Western Subs being home to many waves of migrants. I think you will find a lot of this is caused by far less affluent 2nd generation sons of migrants that see the Indians as easy pickings. They wouldnt have dared try this on Islanders from Fiji, even the Indian ones. There again the Fijian Indians came here to work not study, and mixed in with the general community more.

MartinLuther

You're not going to be happy until the police start cracking heads at random and torturing captives. Sorry mate that's not going to happen.

MartinLuther

Which face monitoring database would that be?

There's no such thing.

Deancm

Ironically enough, one of the perpetrators of the train bashing was clearly an Indian, one was clearly an asian and I think one or two were of Italian or Greek origin. I think only one was an actual Aussie. Could be wrong about the Italian/Greek and Aussie.

Deancm

Didn't you know that Australia is a Police state and we are all microchipped and barcoded with facial recognition and a DNA fingerprint data? It even contains a rectal scan!

MartinLuther

So that's what they use their truncheons for?

Maybe we should get some foreign government to supply trainers so they can learn how to use their truncheons for cracking heads?

Pommy Dan

interesting to see that VicPol have recruited a former Sussex Police CC.

Maybe he'll bring some UK policing standards down with him. Can only hope so, IMHO

mpgrewal

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Not a couple of Indians. 500 have been assualted in past 6 months. I posted the link earlier.

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If you bring some facts (Eventhough many people might not have read them or known them) and challenge the malpractices you are being labelled as of bad and anti attitude. Thats the level of tolerance we have here

Its not becoz of any fear but the fact that I can't hurt anybody personally. So clarificatoin was reqd

mpgrewal

There are 2 face images of every person living in Australia. It can be matched with any suspect face via image processing and pattern matching within few minutes. They even have provision of aging match (because our face my change after some age).

Deancm

No there isn't. The only facial matching is if you have a new style Australian passport and that is only used by immigration. That is only one photo and only if you have a passport. Police do not have access to this information. Facial recognition equipment is used at the airports only.

MartinLuther

I heard that the reason the Indian Police didn't go into Taj Mahal Palace immediately with their special bulletproof armour and their special weapons that will only kill the guilty is because they couldn't see the point of rescuing rich foreigners until a few of them had been bumped off.

That's crap and I know it! But it sounds just like the crap that you've been fed and more worryingly believe.