Carbon tax
#16
Re: Carbon tax
But you have to look like you are doing something because it will give you the moral high ground in international politics.
Anyway even if you aren't that taken by arguments or data supporting a global warming hypothesis it would be a good idea to get a grip on using fossil resources in the long term. So you offer people a carrot and stick, then take away the carrot later .
Anyway even if you aren't that taken by arguments or data supporting a global warming hypothesis it would be a good idea to get a grip on using fossil resources in the long term. So you offer people a carrot and stick, then take away the carrot later .
#17
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The general standard of strategic thinking, planning and implementation in Australian politicians is at about high school level. None of them are actually up to the job they want, and some are so inept that barely scrap primary school standards (that's nah, nah, no Tony).
So far the Greens seem to be the closest to the adults in the room. They at least point out that for it to have an effect, its got to hurt, and petrol has to be included.
Carbon taxes are a last ditch backup measure to address the reality that Australia isn't mature enough to do anything significant for the past two decades, and they need to be smacked so they stop playing up and start moving.
#18
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The way the tax is set up won't work for reducing either carbon emissions or pollution. However saying that, we would be a household better off when it kicks in next July. So I'm neither for it, nor against it!
#19
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 213
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Thick politicians...Oz emissions 0.5 % worldwide,so pointless..
Why let off millions of cars if there is a pollution problem ?
Goodbye Juliaahhhhh
Why let off millions of cars if there is a pollution problem ?
Goodbye Juliaahhhhh
#20
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As I said on twitter
Cos you can bet that prices will go up more than that and when they do Labor will just turn round and blame the utility companies and the utility companies will blame Labor whilst us poor suckers continue to pay through the nose.
So electricity is going up 10% and gas 6% first year after Carbon Tax? Can we have that in writing please @JuliaGillard
#21
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That was brilliant. Politicians have obviously been told that they shouldn't talk with their hands any more so she had to use her head and emphasise every second word. She was like a cross between Paula Radcliffe and a nodding dog.
#22
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Joined: Apr 2004
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When is the election? Kevin O7 so I guess this year?
Perhaps one party will drag in some new leader - gawd what a mess
Perhaps one party will drag in some new leader - gawd what a mess
#23
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Im surprised she didnt say "Yous" instead of You - that would have gone down better to the demographic she was attempting to appeal to.
#24
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Joined: Mar 2009
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I've got no problem with it.
They actually seem to have used it as an excuse to reform tax structure for the better.
They actually seem to have used it as an excuse to reform tax structure for the better.
#25
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I - made - a - car-bon - tax. It - was - nice.
#27
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You want someone to reduce or stop what they are doing so you take money from them and hand it to someone else How utterly ****** stupid.
Wouldn't it be more effective, more efficient, more sensible and simpler to solely work with the chief polluters?
Ultimately saying to them "Look bud, if you don't reduce your emmissions we are going to cripple your business with fines, so you may as well spend the money working on solutions to comply. We will work with you on it, but you will do it."
Wouldn't it be more effective, more efficient, more sensible and simpler to solely work with the chief polluters?
Ultimately saying to them "Look bud, if you don't reduce your emmissions we are going to cripple your business with fines, so you may as well spend the money working on solutions to comply. We will work with you on it, but you will do it."
#28
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But still less of a clown than Tony, and there's the problem.
The general standard of strategic thinking, planning and implementation in Australian politicians is at about high school level. None of them are actually up to the job they want, and some are so inept that barely scrap primary school standards (that's nah, nah, no Tony).
So far the Greens seem to be the closest to the adults in the room. They at least point out that for it to have an effect, its got to hurt, and petrol has to be included.
Carbon taxes are a last ditch backup measure to address the reality that Australia isn't mature enough to do anything significant for the past two decades, and they need to be smacked so they stop playing up and start moving.
The general standard of strategic thinking, planning and implementation in Australian politicians is at about high school level. None of them are actually up to the job they want, and some are so inept that barely scrap primary school standards (that's nah, nah, no Tony).
So far the Greens seem to be the closest to the adults in the room. They at least point out that for it to have an effect, its got to hurt, and petrol has to be included.
Carbon taxes are a last ditch backup measure to address the reality that Australia isn't mature enough to do anything significant for the past two decades, and they need to be smacked so they stop playing up and start moving.
#30
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And so it begins,
Qantas said it would "need to fully pass on the carbon price to customers, with the price of a single domestic flight ticket to increase on average by about $3.50 in 2012-13"