Wow - Iowa primary
#16
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Hillary never expected to win Iowa, she almost decided not to campaign there. Iowa is not a diverse state - and certainly not pro Hillary. NH is a different kettle of fish.
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She was advised not to campaign there and chose to, against other advisers due to the fact that Iowa has never had a woman governer, and Bill did not campaign there either, in I think 92.
#19
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Way too early to forecast anything from this. Carter (76) and Clinton (96) both won the Democratic Iowa Caucus and went on to become the nominee and then president and were the only two to do this in the last 35 years.
Meanwhile plenty of people have won the caucus and not even got nominated to run, like Muskie, Gephardt, and Harkin.
Taking contemporary factors into account though, I would argue that Obama is looking good for the Democratic nomination. Let's just wait and watch the NH primary.
Meanwhile plenty of people have won the caucus and not even got nominated to run, like Muskie, Gephardt, and Harkin.
Taking contemporary factors into account though, I would argue that Obama is looking good for the Democratic nomination. Let's just wait and watch the NH primary.
Harkin was state senator in Iowa also which skewed the results as he didn't really have much hope elsewhere.
Iowa can suck my caucus.
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Still a million times better than last time - I mean Kerry was a cardboard cut out for God's sake! Trouble this time is that there are too many personalities - I think Obama and Hillary will knock each other out and Edwards will come forward - on the other side wide open - McCain looked his age in Iowa though
#22
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Watched some of it on MSNBC last night. They said Obama's victory was huge in terms of a black man winning the vote in a predominanty white state. I hadn't realized that race was such a big issue in politics anymore.
IMO, surely there should be more focus on what he has to give the country rather than what he looks like. I was quite pleased to see that in his victory speech HE didn't bring race into it... it's just a shame that the media had to.
Not sure what to make of the rest of them. There's something false about Hillary. (But then there's always something false about ANY politician.)
Mike Huckabee seemed nice enough, but would he be lacking when it actually came down to a dog-fight. Who knows?
That Mitt Romney just seemed like a stand-up comedian. No wonder no-one took him seriously.
And Edwards looks the part but, again, there's something about that Southern drawl that doesn't quite ring true. (Probably echoes of Dubbya!)
On the whole, I quite liked Obama but what I think doesn't exactly mean a jot so... cup of tea anyone?
IMO, surely there should be more focus on what he has to give the country rather than what he looks like. I was quite pleased to see that in his victory speech HE didn't bring race into it... it's just a shame that the media had to.
Not sure what to make of the rest of them. There's something false about Hillary. (But then there's always something false about ANY politician.)
Mike Huckabee seemed nice enough, but would he be lacking when it actually came down to a dog-fight. Who knows?
That Mitt Romney just seemed like a stand-up comedian. No wonder no-one took him seriously.
And Edwards looks the part but, again, there's something about that Southern drawl that doesn't quite ring true. (Probably echoes of Dubbya!)
On the whole, I quite liked Obama but what I think doesn't exactly mean a jot so... cup of tea anyone?
#23
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Watched some of it on MSNBC last night. They said Obama's victory was huge in terms of a black man winning the vote in a predominanty white state. I hadn't realized that race was such a big issue in politics anymore.
IMO, surely there should be more focus on what he has to give the country rather than what he looks like. I was quite pleased to see that in his victory speech HE didn't bring race into it... it's just a shame that the media had to.
Not sure what to make of the rest of them. There's something false about Hillary. (But then there's always something false about ANY politician.)
Mike Huckabee seemed nice enough, but would he be lacking when it actually came down to a dog-fight. Who knows?
That Mitt Romney just seemed like a stand-up comedian. No wonder no-one took him seriously.
And Edwards looks the part but, again, there's something about that Southern drawl that doesn't quite ring true. (Probably echoes of Dubbya!)
On the whole, I quite liked Obama but what I think doesn't exactly mean a jot so... cup of tea anyone?
IMO, surely there should be more focus on what he has to give the country rather than what he looks like. I was quite pleased to see that in his victory speech HE didn't bring race into it... it's just a shame that the media had to.
Not sure what to make of the rest of them. There's something false about Hillary. (But then there's always something false about ANY politician.)
Mike Huckabee seemed nice enough, but would he be lacking when it actually came down to a dog-fight. Who knows?
That Mitt Romney just seemed like a stand-up comedian. No wonder no-one took him seriously.
And Edwards looks the part but, again, there's something about that Southern drawl that doesn't quite ring true. (Probably echoes of Dubbya!)
On the whole, I quite liked Obama but what I think doesn't exactly mean a jot so... cup of tea anyone?
Hey we have learnt alot in the past 24 hours girl
Obama I think is mixed race mother as he said last night from Kansas not that makes are white, and his dad is from Kenya, I agree who ever can do the best job should get in without a doubt, but Obama does repeat the same thing over and over " we will make changes" its like a tape recording.
Oh mines with a digestive
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Hey we have learnt alot in the past 24 hours girl
Obama I think is mixed race mother as he said last night from Kansas not that makes are white, and his dad is from Kenya, I agree who ever can do the best job should get in without a doubt, but Obama does repeat the same thing over and over " we will make changes" its like a tape recording.
Oh mines with a digestive
Obama I think is mixed race mother as he said last night from Kansas not that makes are white, and his dad is from Kenya, I agree who ever can do the best job should get in without a doubt, but Obama does repeat the same thing over and over " we will make changes" its like a tape recording.
Oh mines with a digestive
Would that be chocolate or plain?
#25
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......although Iowa's last 4 Leiutenant Governors have been Women.
I would like to point out that I didn't take part in last night's events (I can't vote yet). However, I object to the hundreds of millions of dollars wasted on Political Campaigns which could go to helping provide health care for those that need it, or, put roofs over the heads of the people who are without homes through no fault of their own.
Jim.
Last edited by Scouse Express; Jan 4th 2008 at 9:34 pm.
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I am on a diet so plain thanks
#27
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By this time in 6 months we'll be going on chat shows, spouting political flannel like the rest of those smooth-haired media-types!
Teas ready. Mind the crumbs please!
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The campaigns aren't state-funded, though, are they? I was going to say that the campaign $ are no more responsible for homelessness or the sick than the $ spent on handbags or iPods ... but of course the political donations shape the politicians' agenda, which puts healthcare and public housing far down the list.
#29
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Well if, like me, you have nothing else to do with your time, unfortunately the '08 Election Campaign is going to be followed with an obsessive kind of interest...
By this time in 6 months we'll be going on chat shows, spouting political flannel like the rest of those smooth-haired media-types!
Teas ready. Mind the crumbs please!
By this time in 6 months we'll be going on chat shows, spouting political flannel like the rest of those smooth-haired media-types!
Teas ready. Mind the crumbs please!
I never make a mess!
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you do know he's a muslim?
(according to what a guy at work told my father in law )