Go Back  British Expats > Living & Moving Abroad > USA
Reload this Page >

Wouldn't do that again!!

Wouldn't do that again!!

Thread Tools
 
Old Apr 9th 2004, 3:41 pm
  #1  
Forum Regular
Thread Starter
 
muttymutt's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Location: gandia
Posts: 49
muttymutt is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Wouldn't do that again!!

Just wondering whether any of you lucky brits stateside, have ever had any regrets on moving over there? or whether you did something during your move that if you had the chance to do it again you would change?
Any major problemsor experiences that you faced when you started down the long road of immigration, or once you reached the US, anything you thought 'Oh, crap i wish I'd done that!!'

i know what curiosity did to the moggy but i would love to know your thoughts.
muttymutt is offline  
Old Apr 9th 2004, 9:40 pm
  #2  
British/Irish(ish) Duncs
 
Duncs's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Location: Cambridge MA, via Mississippi and Belfast Northern Ireland.
Posts: 700
Duncs has a brilliant futureDuncs has a brilliant futureDuncs has a brilliant futureDuncs has a brilliant futureDuncs has a brilliant futureDuncs has a brilliant futureDuncs has a brilliant future
Default Re: Wouldn't do that again!!

Originally posted by muttymutt
Just wondering whether any of you lucky brits stateside, have ever had any regrets on moving over there? or whether you did something during your move that if you had the chance to do it again you would change?
Any major problemsor experiences that you faced when you started down the long road of immigration, or once you reached the US, anything you thought 'Oh, crap i wish I'd done that!!'

i know what curiosity did to the moggy but i would love to know your thoughts.
If i could do it all again? I wouldnt! i wish i had never moved here at all. Britain has its problems but the grass is definately not greener over here.
Duncs is offline  
Old Apr 9th 2004, 10:48 pm
  #3  
Banned
 
Gross50's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Location: Yeeha, US
Posts: 739
Gross50 is a jewel in the roughGross50 is a jewel in the roughGross50 is a jewel in the roughGross50 is a jewel in the rough
Default Re: Wouldn't do that again!!

Originally posted by Duncs
If i could do it all again? I wouldnt! i wish i had never moved here at all. Britain has its problems but the grass is definately not greener over here.

Depends on the circumstance of the move. most if not all brits being moved by my company have hinted that they would like to work here and are not sure how they will handle retirement.

moving over is kinda stressful and can be disatrous at times. always good to make a short term visit before the final one. one thing for sure, US is so different, may be thats why they call foreigners aliens.

other than the visa hurdle, the greatest problem everyone faces is lack of credit history.
Gross50 is offline  
Old Apr 10th 2004, 2:19 am
  #4  
Forum Regular
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Location: Panhandle Florida
Posts: 160
suzieque is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: Wouldn't do that again!!

Originally posted by Duncs
If i could do it all again? I wouldnt! i wish i had never moved here at all. Britain has its problems but the grass is definately not greener over here.

In some ways I am with you but I had to come my husband is in US air force and we were posted back.
I miss so much about the UK but then again there are things I love here and would miss.

I definatley would have packed up more British stuff and my wirly washing line LOL

Suzie
suzieque is offline  
Old Apr 10th 2004, 3:05 am
  #5  
 
Pulaski's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Location: Dixie, ex UK
Posts: 52,439
Pulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Wouldn't do that again!!

Originally posted by Duncs
If i could do it all again? I wouldnt! i wish i had never moved here at all. Britain has its problems but the grass is definately not greener over here.
On the other hand I would. The move was stressful, and we would never have tried to settle in New York, but otherwise we're all round much better off here than we ever would have been in the UK.

If I'd stayed in the UK I would be mortgaged up to the hilt, and be working my way towards retirement with virtually no spare cash as it would all be going to pay off the mortgage on a three-bed shoebox, ..... with 20' of back garden.
Pulaski is online now  
Old Apr 10th 2004, 10:23 am
  #6  
Forum Regular
Thread Starter
 
muttymutt's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Location: gandia
Posts: 49
muttymutt is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

I think my probelm is the grass does seem greener!! At present we are living in Spain, everyday is a bloody effort, stuff just keeps going wrong. We have been having Spanish lessons and doing pretty well. The people are lovely and obviously climate good, but there is still a language, culture and general understanding barrier.
Most Spaniards think the Brits have more money than sense,(some do!!) and most Brits have come out here and are trying to rip off the other Brits!! I guess I've just had enough of being paranoid and suspicious.
Kids are settled in a private Brit school which costs a bloody fortune and is crap.
I have just come to the conclusion that lifes to short to grin and bear it, while we are still young and the kids aren't at exam age, we should try something new and move stateside.
My other half is based eslewhere so employment is ok, family are behind us whatever we do, so at the moment there seems to be more pros for the US than cons.(even without rose tinted glasses on!)
just wondering what you lot think?
muttymutt is offline  
Old Apr 10th 2004, 1:53 pm
  #7  
Pagan Sex God
 
Patrick's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2002
Location: Living in Oblivion
Posts: 3,668
Patrick has a reputation beyond reputePatrick has a reputation beyond reputePatrick has a reputation beyond reputePatrick has a reputation beyond reputePatrick has a reputation beyond reputePatrick has a reputation beyond reputePatrick has a reputation beyond reputePatrick has a reputation beyond reputePatrick has a reputation beyond reputePatrick has a reputation beyond reputePatrick has a reputation beyond repute
Default

the grass isn't greener, it's just a different type of grass. I don't mind living here but i was happier in the uk.
Patrick is offline  
Old Apr 10th 2004, 8:27 pm
  #8  
Ping-ponger
 
dunroving's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Location: Dreich Alba
Posts: 12,005
dunroving has a reputation beyond reputedunroving has a reputation beyond reputedunroving has a reputation beyond reputedunroving has a reputation beyond reputedunroving has a reputation beyond reputedunroving has a reputation beyond reputedunroving has a reputation beyond reputedunroving has a reputation beyond reputedunroving has a reputation beyond reputedunroving has a reputation beyond reputedunroving has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Wouldn't do that again!!

Originally posted by muttymutt
Just wondering whether any of you lucky brits stateside, have ever had any regrets on moving over there? or whether you did something during your move that if you had the chance to do it again you would change?
Any major problemsor experiences that you faced when you started down the long road of immigration, or once you reached the US, anything you thought 'Oh, crap i wish I'd done that!!'

i know what curiosity did to the moggy but i would love to know your thoughts.
I would have bought a house in the UK before coming here. Despite hearing stories about the "housing boom" in the States, where I live house prices have been stagnant for about the last 10 years. I had the opportunity to buy a house in the UK and didn't take it. The thought of moving back to the UK and trying to buy a house now scares the crap out of me.

I also would have opened a current account with Smile. I have an ISA and savings account with them, and if I had a current account with them, my interest rates would be a lot higher. I tried opening a current account with them after I came here - no deal.

And I agree - the grass is just different here - whether it's greener depends on what tint you have in your glasses.
dunroving is offline  
Old Apr 10th 2004, 9:30 pm
  #9  
British/Irish(ish) Duncs
 
Duncs's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Location: Cambridge MA, via Mississippi and Belfast Northern Ireland.
Posts: 700
Duncs has a brilliant futureDuncs has a brilliant futureDuncs has a brilliant futureDuncs has a brilliant futureDuncs has a brilliant futureDuncs has a brilliant futureDuncs has a brilliant future
Default

Originally posted by Patrick
the grass isn't greener, it's just a different type of grass. I don't mind living here but i was happier in the uk.
crab grass and lots of it!
Duncs is offline  
Old Apr 11th 2004, 2:01 am
  #10  
Mr. Grumpy
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 3,100
BritGuyTN has a reputation beyond reputeBritGuyTN has a reputation beyond reputeBritGuyTN has a reputation beyond reputeBritGuyTN has a reputation beyond reputeBritGuyTN has a reputation beyond reputeBritGuyTN has a reputation beyond reputeBritGuyTN has a reputation beyond reputeBritGuyTN has a reputation beyond reputeBritGuyTN has a reputation beyond reputeBritGuyTN has a reputation beyond reputeBritGuyTN has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Patrick pretty much sums up my own thoughts - its just different

a few of my friends moved here or are in the process of doing so to live the 'american dream' - the ones here are finding its not at all what they thought it would be like

to be honest - i like the european lifestyle better but i'm here to stay now so i've got on with it!

i for one thought personal taxation was better - thinking because you had health insurance you didn't need to pay national insurance.... completely wrong - you have to pay medicare and social security - neither of which you can take advantage of until you retire!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!! (unless unfortunate cirmcumstances befall you)

be aware that if you move here the will be a 'culture and general understanding barrier' - just a different one to the the one you have in spain right now
BritGuyTN is offline  
Old Apr 11th 2004, 2:06 am
  #11  
Mr. Grumpy
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 3,100
BritGuyTN has a reputation beyond reputeBritGuyTN has a reputation beyond reputeBritGuyTN has a reputation beyond reputeBritGuyTN has a reputation beyond reputeBritGuyTN has a reputation beyond reputeBritGuyTN has a reputation beyond reputeBritGuyTN has a reputation beyond reputeBritGuyTN has a reputation beyond reputeBritGuyTN has a reputation beyond reputeBritGuyTN has a reputation beyond reputeBritGuyTN has a reputation beyond repute
Default

also - does your spouse's employer offer the option to transfer him to a US office? caveats being either a manager or executive (L1A) or someone with speecialist knowledge (L1B)

If not you better have a shed load of cash to invest in a new company or the prosposed immigration is academic.....
BritGuyTN is offline  
Old Apr 11th 2004, 2:39 am
  #12  
Account Closed
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 2
scrubbedexpat099 is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

I was just going to say the same, nothing that you have posted so far suggests that you could come here, whether you want to or not.

In many ways I think Spain, Valencia is where you live now?, is more familiar than the UK.

If you want the UK, go home, you will not find it here.
scrubbedexpat099 is offline  
Old Apr 11th 2004, 3:27 am
  #13  
British/Irish(ish) Duncs
 
Duncs's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Location: Cambridge MA, via Mississippi and Belfast Northern Ireland.
Posts: 700
Duncs has a brilliant futureDuncs has a brilliant futureDuncs has a brilliant futureDuncs has a brilliant futureDuncs has a brilliant futureDuncs has a brilliant futureDuncs has a brilliant future
Default

Originally posted by BritGuyTN
Patrick pretty much sums up my own thoughts - its just different

a few of my friends moved here or are in the process of doing so to live the 'american dream' - the ones here are finding its not at all what they thought it would be like

to be honest - i like the european lifestyle better but i'm here to stay now so i've got on with it!

i for one thought personal taxation was better - thinking because you had health insurance you didn't need to pay national insurance.... completely wrong - you have to pay medicare and social security - neither of which you can take advantage of until you retire!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!! (unless unfortunate cirmcumstances befall you)

be aware that if you move here the will be a 'culture and general understanding barrier' - just a different one to the the one you have in spain right now
The key difference here is money. This is a deeply unequal society the top 1% of earners in the USA have as much disposable income as the bottom 50%. The average CEO here makes around 400 times the average worker(40 times in the UK) and the top earning 400 people in the USA have as much wealth as the entire 500,000 odd who currently work for Walmart. If you are part of the top 1% then life here is great and everything is open to you. If not then its progressively tougher. The lower down the chain you are then the harder life will be for you and for your kids as well as social mobility in every field is linked strongly to parental income(its not just coincidence that only 17% of Harvard college students come from lower or even lower middle class families). For the aristocracy in the USA(yes there is one but its defined by money not titles) life is great for the rest of the unwashed masses it is getting harder every year. The inequality has reached an historic high (its as bad as in the middle of the great depression) and it may swing back again but i dont see any Roosevelt like political figures on the horizon so i suspect that it will worsen as it has clearly become structural. Things in the US will not be a silver lined cloud any time soon so unless you are or expect to be a millionaire i would stay in europe.
Duncs is offline  
Old Apr 11th 2004, 3:53 am
  #14  
Mr. Grumpy
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 3,100
BritGuyTN has a reputation beyond reputeBritGuyTN has a reputation beyond reputeBritGuyTN has a reputation beyond reputeBritGuyTN has a reputation beyond reputeBritGuyTN has a reputation beyond reputeBritGuyTN has a reputation beyond reputeBritGuyTN has a reputation beyond reputeBritGuyTN has a reputation beyond reputeBritGuyTN has a reputation beyond reputeBritGuyTN has a reputation beyond reputeBritGuyTN has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I completely agree

One of my friends is currently in the process of moving to boston on a K1

He keeps waffling on about the opportunities that america presents etc..... - I personally think hes living in cloud cuckoo land

jobs in his sector - IT - may be availble, but there are so many people applying... from seeing peoples experiencs on this board he seems wildly optimistic in getting employment at the same level he enjoyed in the UK (although to be honest I do not know what comparitive salaries for people of his experience are in the US)

it seems that everyone local i speak to has a masters degree, if not 2! I never fancied going back into education, but its likely I may do just that as an insurance policy for the future. not to put me above other candidates, but just to ensure I am in the running!
BritGuyTN is offline  
Old Apr 11th 2004, 5:24 am
  #15  
British/Irish(ish) Duncs
 
Duncs's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Location: Cambridge MA, via Mississippi and Belfast Northern Ireland.
Posts: 700
Duncs has a brilliant futureDuncs has a brilliant futureDuncs has a brilliant futureDuncs has a brilliant futureDuncs has a brilliant futureDuncs has a brilliant futureDuncs has a brilliant future
Default

Originally posted by BritGuyTN
I completely agree

One of my friends is currently in the process of moving to boston on a K1

He keeps waffling on about the opportunities that america presents etc..... - I personally think hes living in cloud cuckoo land

jobs in his sector - IT - may be availble, but there are so many people applying... from seeing peoples experiencs on this board he seems wildly optimistic in getting employment at the same level he enjoyed in the UK (although to be honest I do not know what comparitive salaries for people of his experience are in the US)

it seems that everyone local i speak to has a masters degree, if not 2! I never fancied going back into education, but its likely I may do just that as an insurance policy for the future. not to put me above other candidates, but just to ensure I am in the running!
to compare my wife has 2 masters degrees with good grades top 20% of her class from top 20 university. The only job she has found since graduation is as retail assistant, times are tough. I have a masters degree in law and i cant even get a job as a legal file clerk your UK education is worth shit here. people who think the USA is all the american dream and you will suceed with hard work etc are kidding themselves.
Duncs is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.