johnbrown1938

Once the travel ban is lifted? There is some talk in Forbes magazine that it might not be?.

Thanks in advance.

johnbrown1938

And will their be any issues with where it was manufactured like India or Africa or UK or whatever? Because EU is not accepting all manufacturing locations are they for example?

Lion in Winter

I don't think anyone knows, since the US hasn't even approved the vaccine yet nor set out how or when it will start approving arrivals from countries that are currently banned.

postbox134

From what I understand, the US is very anti any form of vaccination certificate, even though it makes sense for international entry. People see it as one step towards ID requirements etc etc - will be interesting to see how Biden gets around that.

On a related note, on reddit someone in NYC who was part of the AZ trail here in the US was having no end of problems with their vaccination status despite trying to help and putting themselves at risk being part of the trial.

civilservant

You're talking about internally. US Citizens/Residents do not like that sort of intrusion that's true, but most couldn't give a fig about what restrictions are put on arriving aliens.

In fact I'm sure a good percentage of the population would like to see as many restrictions placed on visitation and immigration as possible.

Since the Federal Government controls immigration, the President has significant say through Executive Orders. There has not been any real meaningful immigration/ border control legislation passed through Congress in decades.

postbox134

Agreed, but I feel like many would be upset at it being talked about at all. Not sure many people would read into it just being for non-citizens etc.

civilservant

I don’t. At least in this part of the world.

TimFountain

Well, right now you'll also need a negative test to enter the US. This applies to citizens and visitors.

Requirement for Proof of Negative COVID-19 Test or Recovery from COVID-19 for All Air Passengers Arriving in the United States | CDC

tht

What do you mean? The “US” not anti anything, the current administration, and some citizens and politicians do have individual views on it, but that is different to the “Country”. Also the CDC issued vaccination certificates for CV19 and prior to that I had another yellow CDC vaccination record for I international travel to places like India.

We also supply this data for our kids school/daycare every year since having vaccinations is a requirement for public school, this is a form signed by their doctor.

If you are saying there is not enough political will to put in place a central electronic / verifiable data base that’s a different thing.

NY state already has something like that:
https://covid19vaccine.health.ny.gov/excelsior-pass
I can’t get that, but have 2 others on my phone, the Clear one:
https://www.clearme.com/vaccine-validation
And one in my Apple wallet:
https://www.gogetvax.com/

although I don’t think the verification goes beyond review of the picture of the paper one submitted.

As others note a significant % of the population would not want one and would also not need it/be eligible for one. As long a places requiring it, airlines and maybe other domestic venues in the future accept the paper one or the others mentioned above. Clear already works with airlines, so there is not a need for a mandated one.
The reason people are anti a vax passport is likely because they are anti vax and that would be a way to single them out and exclude them from things.

robtuck

Virgin and BA ran a trial to show the UK Govt they could verify the Vaccination of people who confirmed that they had been vaccinated in the USA. I'd imagine the same would be easily achieved in reverse, in fact it would easier given the NHS records are centrally held.

I have no doubt the US citizens would be more than happy for foreign invaders to be checked for vaccination first, while many would simultaneously hold the view that such a mandate on them would be against the pale. What is good for the Goose is most definitely not good for the Gander - although even Canadian Geese would probably need proof of vaccination to get in if they didn't keep just ignoring the border every day already. Strangely, I have stepped foot in Gander, Canada.

classicmds

I get what you mean, but the fact is there is right now a much more draconian ban on foreign visitors than a vaccine passport, and I don't see many people making the leap to argue this is a slippery slope to ending US citizens' freedom of movement.

civilservant

I'm sure a move to ban all immigration, of any kind, even visitors, would receive the support of a healthy number of voters in this country. I would guess at at least 25-30%

GaleOfWind

I would expect them to accept more than just Pfizer/Moderna/J&J, the large majority of people in the countries currently travel banned have received a vaccine that is not one of these three

TexanScot

None of them seem to have any issues with USCIS enforcing a vaccine mandate upon Adjustment of Status applicants and Immigrant Visa recipients.

I wouldn't be surprised to see coronavirus vaccination being added as a requirement to the I-693 as soon as the right combination of politicians and civil servants realize that this is a thing that they can actually do.

atsey64

Strange as I together with my family moved to the US last week and I was not asked to confirm whether I had been vaccinated - just had to have a negative PCR test.