Why Do People Take US Citizenship?
#46
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Re: Why Do People Take US Citizenship?
Might as well have some fun while you're here! Congrats on the citizenship as well.
#49
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Last summer she didn't, because she had passed on the first notice because of work commitments. As it was, we were just about okay then, and she didn't get selected for anything, so only a day out, but the next case was a big grand jury, okay she wouldn't have been allowed to have been on that jury as we knew the victims family.
They also get lunch paid for!
They also get lunch paid for!
#50
Re: Why Do People Take US Citizenship?
I have chosen the US as my home and have no plans to go back to the UK to live. My primary reason was I really do want to make a commitment to the US and in return I want a commitment from the US. To me this means being on the same level as every other USC when it comes to voting, tax and social security issues. I want to come and go as I please and say goodbye to the USCIS. Also my kids are USC's. Finally, for reasons I don't want to discuss publicly, there are very advantageous career options in my chosen field only available to USC's. This will mean surrendering my UK passport, which is absolutely OK by me....
- Tim
PS We have discussed this many times over the years in IMHO there is no right or wrong answer, it is totally up to you. However as contributors upthread have already commented, there are plenty of examples on this site of posters who really wish they had gone through with getting citizenship before their circumstances changed and they lost their green card for a multitude of reasons.
- Tim
PS We have discussed this many times over the years in IMHO there is no right or wrong answer, it is totally up to you. However as contributors upthread have already commented, there are plenty of examples on this site of posters who really wish they had gone through with getting citizenship before their circumstances changed and they lost their green card for a multitude of reasons.
#51
Re: Why Do People Take US Citizenship?
Well, yes. But my point was that you could potentially place yourself at risk somewhere in the world by simply being discovered to be a USC.
It certainly might help if you have a valid non-US passport available to whip out at a moment's notice after you are apprehended by someone who is pissed off at America!
Since passports are expensive, many USC's with multiple citizenships only hold a valid US passport (because, as a USC, you must have a US passport when departing/entering the US). They often let their other passport(s) expire because they think they don't need them. This is the danger I was trying to point out.
It certainly might help if you have a valid non-US passport available to whip out at a moment's notice after you are apprehended by someone who is pissed off at America!
Since passports are expensive, many USC's with multiple citizenships only hold a valid US passport (because, as a USC, you must have a US passport when departing/entering the US). They often let their other passport(s) expire because they think they don't need them. This is the danger I was trying to point out.
I don't buy this argument. If you are going to put your self in a position where you might possibly meet someone somewhere who is angry at the US, they will probably be equally unhappy with you if you pull out another passport of another western country. I think that giving those places a wide berth in the first place woad be a much more prudent course of action.
- Tim
#52
Re: Why Do People Take US Citizenship?
It took me about 10 years to take the plunge. Maybe I was taking it a little too seriously but I didn't think it was right to become a USC purely for convenience. In the end I took the plunge but I feel like a fraud because I will never think of myself anything other than British.
There is no way on earth I would ever give up my UK citizenship.
There is no way on earth I would ever give up my UK citizenship.
#53
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Re: Why Do People Take US Citizenship?
It took me about 10 years to take the plunge. Maybe I was taking it a little too seriously but I didn't think it was right to become a USC purely for convenience. In the end I took the plunge but I feel like a fraud because I will never think of myself anything other than British.
There is no way on earth I would ever give up my UK citizenship.
There is no way on earth I would ever give up my UK citizenship.
Had I to surrender my UK passport and citizenship I wouldn't have done it. It's much nicer to have the best of both worlds anyway.
#54
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Bob, I realize that for some people that is a problem. I've been fortunate, as was my husband, to have always worked for employers who paid you your regular salary if you served jury duty. I wasn't addressing those people but those who are in like situation with myself.
#55
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It's rare that a trial lasts more than a few days. It's really only the media trials that last that long. Even a capital murder case, unless it is sexy enough for national media, are relatively short. As much as possible, personal hardships are taken into account during the selection process. Honestly, how often have you heard of somebody's life being ruined because they had to sit on a jury?
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Re: Why Do People Take US Citizenship?
It's rare that a trial lasts more than a few days. It's really only the media trials that last that long. Even a capital murder case, unless it is sexy enough for national media, are relatively short. As much as possible, personal hardships are taken into account during the selection process. Honestly, how often have you heard of somebody's life being ruined because they had to sit on a jury?
#57
Re: Why Do People Take US Citizenship?
It's rare that a trial lasts more than a few days. It's really only the media trials that last that long. Even a capital murder case, unless it is sexy enough for national media, are relatively short. As much as possible, personal hardships are taken into account during the selection process. Honestly, how often have you heard of somebody's life being ruined because they had to sit on a jury?
#58
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My job will pay us (within reason) but I seriously doubt they would go for 6 months. We have school, child care, health, etc, exemptions in Texas. You don't have to take them even if you qualify but they are available. If a person was to tell the judge, "I'll lose my job and my house if I have to serve on this jury", they'd probably get excused. It is no coincidence that a lot of retired people sit on juries though.
#60
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Also the jury might not meet every day and/or meet the a full day. Unless they are sequestered, they can go to work on the off hours.
I know that Grand Jury duty for federal court in Manhattan is a three/six month stretch but they only meet twice a week and not for a full day.
I know that Grand Jury duty for federal court in Manhattan is a three/six month stretch but they only meet twice a week and not for a full day.