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Lion in Winter Sep 27th 2004 6:14 am

Re: Why become a U.S citizen?
 

Originally Posted by syllk
How about being eligible for Jury Duty as a nice big con?

I was called once - no one would accept me as I did Philosophy. (?).

VFRpilot Sep 27th 2004 6:17 am

Re: Why become a U.S citizen?
 

Originally Posted by Celtic_Angel
Hi are you a Brit who has become a U.S citizen or plan on becoming one? If so why?

I'd love to get some feed-back I've never even considered it for myself but now I'm suddenly intrigued, would it be the smart thing to do? What are the pro's and con's?
I'd love to hear your reasons ....okay okay .....I'm nosey what can I say ;)

For us it was all about giving our kids a few more options. We had been here for 10 years (on a green card for 8 years) and with our kids fast approaching college, we wanted to ensure that if after going through school, they wanted to remain, this would be an option. So now we all hold dual citizenship. The only real negative side that I see, is the prospect of my son ever being called up.

ElsieTheMaid Sep 27th 2004 6:18 am

Re: Why become a U.S citizen?
 
I became a citizen 12 years ago. I knew that I wanted to live here permanently, so it just made sense that I should vote and make a difference in the country that is now home.

Dan725 Sep 27th 2004 6:40 am

Re: Why become a U.S citizen?
 

Originally Posted by Bob
Really? when I was in Boston, they were telling everyone with a greencard to get out of that line and get in with the rest of us foreigners...

Obviously, there was an arsehole on the desk that day. Greencard is good for fast line

Rete Sep 27th 2004 7:06 am

Re: Why become a U.S citizen?
 

Originally Posted by Bob
Worldwide income and tax returns to the IRS....can be a problem, well a pain if you have property back home for instance


Also I believe as long as you maintain your US Residency, you still have to report worldwide income.

Rete

Bob Sep 27th 2004 7:15 am

Re: Why become a U.S citizen?
 

Originally Posted by Dan725
Obviously, there was an arsehole on the desk that day. Greencard is good for fast line

That's good to know, cheers...
and so far, they've all been arseholes at Boston Logon....

Bob Sep 27th 2004 7:18 am

Re: Why become a U.S citizen?
 

Originally Posted by Rete
Also I believe as long as you maintain your US Residency, you still have to report worldwide income.

Rete

Yeah, you do, but only if your living here...but if you went and worked else where, tax free places in the middle east for example, as citizen, would have to report that....which is a shame.

DaveC Sep 27th 2004 7:59 am

Re: Why become a U.S citizen?
 

Originally Posted by Bob
Really? when I was in Boston, they were telling everyone with a greencard to get out of that line and get in with the rest of us foreigners...

I've used my GC to get through the US Citizens line three times at DFW airport with no problems, the most recent time being in June.

Bob Sep 27th 2004 8:25 am

Re: Why become a U.S citizen?
 

Originally Posted by DaveC
I've used my GC to get through the US Citizens line three times at DFW airport with no problems, the most recent time being in June.

Well that was my experience through boston, logon, they kept shoving all the GC holders into the other line, and only ever flown in through there, or driven in through from canada.

JAJ Sep 27th 2004 1:01 pm

Re: Why become a U.S citizen?
 

Originally Posted by VFRpilot
For us it was all about giving our kids a few more options. We had been here for 10 years (on a green card for 8 years) and with our kids fast approaching college, we wanted to ensure that if after going through school, they wanted to remain, this would be an option. So now we all hold dual citizenship. The only real negative side that I see, is the prospect of my son ever being called up.

He could be called up even as a green card holder - permanent residents are required to register with Selective Service just like US citizens.
http://www.sss.gov

Jeremy

Britarm Sep 28th 2004 1:09 am

Re: Why become a U.S citizen?
 

Originally Posted by Lion in Winter
You are becoming a rank sentimentalist. Whatever happened to having two countries to criticise? I do. My son has three. :D

LiW, I have always been sentimental, most Brits are because of their love of the Arts and music, I cry every time I hear the high C. I do hope you have taught your son that there are alternatives to your rather biased outlook on politics, but I am sure he has your high i.q. My elder son was born in Liverpool, so he is dual, and loves it when I call him scouse, my younger son, and still younger daughter were born in California, but they all love to be part of UK. and US., I say UK., and not England, because their mom is Scottish...oh my!

Lion in Winter Sep 28th 2004 1:13 am

Re: Why become a U.S citizen?
 

Originally Posted by Britarm
LiW, I have always been sentimental, most Brits are because of their love of the Arts and music, I cry every time I hear the high C. I do hope you have taught your son that there are alternatives to your rather biased outlook on politics, but I am sure he has your high i.q. My elder son was born in Liverpool, so he is dual, and loves it when I call him scouse, my younger son, and still younger daughter were born in California, but they all love to be part of UK. and US., I say UK., and not England, because their mom is Scottish...oh my!

Um, my son's about to turn 5. He's not too interested in politics yet, but he likes a high C as much as the next person.

Criticising the government of one's country is not lack of love for the country; it is, rather, the crucial foundation of democracy. There is no part of patriotism that does not include having a better vision of what one's country should be.

Britarm Sep 28th 2004 1:50 am

Re: Why become a U.S citizen?
 

Originally Posted by Lion in Winter
Criticising the government of one's country is not lack of love for the country; it is, rather, the crucial foundation of democracy. There is no part of patriotism that does not include having a better vision of what one's country should be.

LiW,
As usual, your retorts show me up, and are well stated, and noted.

Celtic_Angel Sep 28th 2004 2:11 am

Re: Why become a U.S citizen?
 

Originally Posted by Lion in Winter
............... having a better vision of what one's country should be.

So LIW you'd say U.S was your country? I guess i've never really felt this way, it's just now that i'm considering leaving that i'm looking into becoming a citizen just so i ensure my right to enter the country later if i want to , imagine having my sons called to fight for a country that I'd have to fight immigration to enter!!
Having to pay both U.K and U.S taxes will kinda suck but i guess it's kinda like an insurance policy ;)

if i do go for citizenship I'll sure miss being the only one not pledging allegance at games.....hey what can i say i'm a rebel :p

Lion in Winter Sep 28th 2004 2:31 am

Re: Why become a U.S citizen?
 

Originally Posted by Celtic_Angel
So LIW you'd say U.S was your country? I guess i've never really felt this way, it's just now that i'm considering leaving that i'm looking into becoming a citizen just so i ensure my right to enter the country later if i want to , imagine having my sons called to fight for a country that I'd have to fight immigration to enter!!
Having to pay both U.K and U.S taxes will kinda suck but i guess it's kinda like an insurance policy ;)

if i do go for citizenship I'll sure miss being the only one not pledging allegance at games.....hey what can i say i'm a rebel :p

No, I wouldn't say that the U.S. was my country. The U.K. is my country and always will be, not because I consider it to be better than other countries, but because I was born there, grew up there, and I belong to its history and cultural heritage. I took U.S. citizenship also, after many years, for a variety of reasons, but one of the main ones was that my son was born here (my husband is not a U.S. national either), and I wanted to share citizenship with him. He has three citizenships, lucky fella. US, UK and Mexico. I don't actually envision spending the rest of my life here. As a friend of mine put it, I don't consider myself to have ended up here, rather I feel that I'm in the departure lounge, and I'm lucky enough to have a first class ticket.


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