Who instituted the 3 & 10 year bars?
Oct 2nd 2002, 5:49 am
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Who instituted the 3 & 10 year bars?
My husband thinks it was the UK because they couldn't supply visas fast enough.
He does believe the United States would do such a thing.
Jean
He does believe the United States would do such a thing.
Jean
Oct 2nd 2002, 5:44 pm
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Re: Who instituted the 3 & 10 year bars?
Congress instituted them in the Illegal Immigration Reform and
Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 (IIRIRA).
They added to these to the law as constructive deportation devices
upon voluntary departure after status violations. In so doing, they
limited the usefulness of immigration judges granting "voluntary
departure" in deportation proceedings so the people who leave can't
immediately get a new visa and return.
What does the UK have to do with any of this?
CP
Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 (IIRIRA).
They added to these to the law as constructive deportation devices
upon voluntary departure after status violations. In so doing, they
limited the usefulness of immigration judges granting "voluntary
departure" in deportation proceedings so the people who leave can't
immediately get a new visa and return.
What does the UK have to do with any of this?
CP
Oct 2nd 2002, 6:06 pm
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Re: Who instituted the 3 & 10 year bars?
EXACTLY my husband (USC) didn't believe me when I said that the US government had instituted the 3/10 year bar. He said the United States would not do such a thing. He blamed it on the UK (I am a UKC). He told me to find out from the newsgroup. Hence my postings. I needed it in black and white to show him that he was wrong.
Originally posted by Chris Parker:
Congress instituted them in the Illegal Immigration Reform and
Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 (IIRIRA).
They added to these to the law as constructive deportation devices
upon voluntary departure after status violations. In so doing, they
limited the usefulness of immigration judges granting "voluntary
departure" in deportation proceedings so the people who leave can't
immediately get a new visa and return.
What does the UK have to do with any of this?
CP
Congress instituted them in the Illegal Immigration Reform and
Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 (IIRIRA).
They added to these to the law as constructive deportation devices
upon voluntary departure after status violations. In so doing, they
limited the usefulness of immigration judges granting "voluntary
departure" in deportation proceedings so the people who leave can't
immediately get a new visa and return.
What does the UK have to do with any of this?
CP
Oct 2nd 2002, 6:13 pm
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Re: Who instituted the 3 & 10 year bars?
OK I knew that already but hubby wanted it in black and white.
He wouldn't believe me last night lol.
Next Question:
Re: Restoration of Fairness to Immigration Act 2000, 2001 and 2002
I presume none of these have become law yet. When do you think they will become law?
If this was law then my 10 year bar would be reduced to 3.
Jean
He wouldn't believe me last night lol.
Next Question:
Re: Restoration of Fairness to Immigration Act 2000, 2001 and 2002
I presume none of these have become law yet. When do you think they will become law?
If this was law then my 10 year bar would be reduced to 3.
Jean
Originally posted by Loversdream:
EXACTLY my husband (USC) didn't believe me when I said that the US government had instituted the 3/10 year bar. He said the United States would not do such a thing. He blamed it on the UK (I am a UKC). He told me to find out from the newsgroup. Hence my postings. I needed it in black and white to show him that he was wrong.
EXACTLY my husband (USC) didn't believe me when I said that the US government had instituted the 3/10 year bar. He said the United States would not do such a thing. He blamed it on the UK (I am a UKC). He told me to find out from the newsgroup. Hence my postings. I needed it in black and white to show him that he was wrong.
Oct 2nd 2002, 6:23 pm
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Re: Who instituted the 3 & 10 year bars?
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> My husband thinks it was the UK because they couldn't supply visas
> fast enough.
>=20
> He does believe the United States would do such a thing.
The 3- and 10-year entitlement bars were brought into effect by the =
passage of a massive immigration bill, the Illegal Immigration Reform =
and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996, which was signed by President =
Clinton on September 30, 1996. =20
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http://www.shusterman.com/toc-nwlw.ht-
ml. The legislation resulted from =
great political pressure for the U.S. to exert more control over those =
involved in illegal immigration and immigration violations. =20
I can't follow your husband's reasoning process at all. The U.K. =
obviously lacks the power to institute any law in the U.S. =20
And the passage of any U.S. law requires so much effort by so many =
advocates and legislators, with provisions often being reintroduced over =
and over in different sessions of Congress for years before a version of =
the provision passes, that the effect of a foreign county's wishes has =
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were brought=20
into effect by the passage of a massive immigration bill, the =
Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996, which was signed
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The bars were created in =
section 301=20
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m/toc-nwlw.html. =20
The legislation resulted from great political pressure for the U.S. to =
exert=20
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violations.Â
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process at=20
all. The U.K. obviously lacks the power to institute any law in =
the=20
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requires so much=20
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Oct 2nd 2002, 9:35 pm
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Re: Who instituted the 3 & 10 year bars?
Loversdream wrote:
> OK I knew that already but hubby wanted it in black and white.
> He wouldn't believe me last night lol.
> Next Question:
> Re: Restoration of Fairness to Immigration Act 2000, 2001 and 2002
> I presume none of these have become law yet. When do you think they will
> become law?
> If this was law then my 10 year bar would be reduced to 3.
No, I don't think so (though I have not read the text of any of the
proposed legislation so my answer is a guess)
> OK I knew that already but hubby wanted it in black and white.
> He wouldn't believe me last night lol.
> Next Question:
> Re: Restoration of Fairness to Immigration Act 2000, 2001 and 2002
> I presume none of these have become law yet. When do you think they will
> become law?
> If this was law then my 10 year bar would be reduced to 3.
No, I don't think so (though I have not read the text of any of the
proposed legislation so my answer is a guess)
