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Old Aug 30th 2012, 1:46 pm
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tuxedocat, robin1234 - fascinating replies, thanks. And they both sum up my main frustration more succinctly than my previous post did; American history is far more fascinating when the grey areas are explored. Less flattering than the black and white version sure, but infinitely more interesting and useful.

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All the issues raised in the first post are the things that just baffle me about living here in America. I've been here 4 months and it's kinda frustrating. The poverty and homeless levels are disturbing although negative things aside, there are many good things here too, hence why I'm here. I still believe America needs to get it's priorities straight though.
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Old Aug 30th 2012, 2:33 pm
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Back to least favourite - the way your insurance premium (renter's, car) is based on your credit rating. Not whether you live in a dodgy area or are a new or crap driver.
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Well, I'm half Brit, half Kraut... I get to win no matter what in these situations!!!

Actually, I grew up in the West Country from age 5, carry a Brit passport, struggle to speak German and served in the British air force. So I usually deal with the football question by claiming football is wank and is just about team A's east European/African imports playing team B's east European/African imports and real men play rugby anyway...
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Originally Posted by yellowroom
Back to least favourite - the way your insurance premium (renter's, car) is based on your credit rating. Not whether you live in a dodgy area or are a new or crap driver.
Not sure that's right.
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Old Aug 30th 2012, 3:23 pm
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From my insurance provider:

Fair Credit Reporting Act Disclosure Notice

The price we are quoting you is based in part on information provided to us by the consumer reporting agency listed below.

We are sending you this notice, as required by federal and/or state law, because you received a higher price based on your credit information.

The consumer reporting agency provided the following description of the credit factors that had the most influence on the price we quoted you:

-Insufficient length of credit history
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Originally Posted by yellowroom
From my insurance provider:
That's shit - effectively what you have been told is "We do base your premium on your driving history blah, blah, blah, but that's irrelevant because your credit dictates that we need to take this giant chunk of your insides out of your arse, just like this ..."

... and you can't sit down for a month

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I didn't realize that! They asked me where I live and ages of drivers, commute etc, but maybe they took credit rating into account as well.
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Originally Posted by Sally Redux
I didn't realize that! They asked me where I live and ages of drivers, commute etc, but maybe they took credit rating into account as well.
It might depend on the providers as well, of course. I'm not sure ours does, either that or our credit is good.

aye, yeah, we have a mortgage and our credit is still good. That's funny!
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You can also refuse to give them your social. I don't know if it will help or not.
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Originally Posted by robin1234
Another way to look at it is that the American view of history is still dominated by what British historiographers call the Whig Interpretation of History, the view that the past is an inevitable progression towards ever greater liberty and enlightenment, culminating in modern forms of liberal democracy. In the US version of this world view, England carried the torch of progress up until 1776 then it was passed to America that has exclusively borne it ever since. Thus England is credited with Magna Carta and the Glorious Revolution (for instance,) but no liberal democratic progress since then can be allowed the English. Abolition of the Slave Trade? Extension of the franchise? Votes for women? No mention of these, since they happened after 1776.
You are right none of those are mentioned. Lincoln ended slavery..
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Originally Posted by tuxedocat
You are right none of those are mentioned. Lincoln ended slavery..
Though unfortunately Britain's abolition of slavery in 1833 was rather selective...
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Originally Posted by Sally Redux
I didn't realize that! They asked me where I live and ages of drivers, commute etc, but maybe they took credit rating into account as well.
It depends on your state too. Some states allow it, some don't.
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Originally Posted by Sally Redux
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Originally Posted by yellowroom
From my insurance provider:
We had that - our premium went up by 60%

So I saved them the problem of dealing with a suddenly high risk person whose situation hadn't changed a jot...

... by taking my business to their biggest competitor, and getting a better deal than my original one.

When you do it online you can fore go the SSN details... sweet!

The first insurer still took the premium, so I had to call them and claim it back - no problem - all went very quickly and got the money back inside a week. The lady at the call center asked me why we were jumping ship so I politely told her exactly what had happened, said we had no issue with the service we got, or coverage, just the crazy credit-based pricing, so were going elsewhere - I told her who we were going to as well...
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