Haldaman

Language is changing all the time, as a student of languages many years ago I keep noticing differences, whether they are peculiar to NC I know not.

Middle T has disappeared from "twenty", "Martin", and several others.

Poor old H doesnt know whether its coming or going, as in otel but not hostel, uman but not hummer, and more.

Love to collect more!

Mar'in

Thydney

My kids ask for a 'baddle of wadder' drives me ****ing mental.

andy620

It's the literal pronunciation that always catches my ear.

E.g Today the Fox news reporters always referred to Bob Geldof as GeldoRf, Johannesburg, South Africa as "Hoehannesberg" and did you know that the G8 summit next week will be in Scotland, England.

Happy 4th.

ScousePete

Your missing T has been found. It turned up in the unlikeliest of places, right in the middle of our national tennis competition - WimbleTon.

Lion in Winter

If you listen carefully, they tend to say "Wimpleton." Sigh.

mandpete

When I was a teenager growing up in Stockport, it was cool to say wa'er, bu'er, twe'y(20), Coun'y (Stockport County), Sa'dy (Saturday), par'y and so on. My Mum used to go mad and tell me that if a word has a T in it I had to pronounce it and I soon got out of the habit of missing T out of words.

25 years later here I am in the US and cannot ever bring myself to pronounce a T as a D. My children do when with friends but with me they always pronounce it correctly.

All my family are from either Stockport or Eccles and none of them pronounce 'er' as 'o' as in Manchesto. This seemed to become popular when the Manchester Bands hit the scene.

Don't get me wrong I have a strong northern accent but it makes me cringe when I hear 'wa'er' etc.

Amand'o' (Sor'ed)

ukemigrant

Not surprised - it should be 'boddle of wodder'

Dimsie

Hi Mar'in

With regard to your elusive 'T' - it's also on the run in parts of Yorkshire -my old homeland. Many folks in Leeds and parts of East Yorkshire practice what I believe is called by those who study the subject "the glottal stop" - meaning that the T sound is left at the back of the throat (I think that's accurate?) We had a Mar'in in our office in Leeds - and lots of my workmates pronounced it just like that.

Baddle of wadder in the US drives me mad too - Saying "bottle of water" is likely to bring forth all manner of unwanted beverages - I know from bitter experience!

Dimsie

Mar'in - I remember now! Your report of your DCF exercise on the Marriage site inspired us to go for the same route - the Haldaman effect - LOL!
Thanks (I think!!)

Haldaman

Yes Dimsie, glottal stop it is and my Yorkshire ancestors too used it. It is also prevalent in my adopted city of Bristol.
Bristolese is well known for adding an 'l' to the end of words ending in vowels, and I have noticed it here Down South as well in two words, Goldsborough and Swansboro so far.
Mar'n and - even - Car'lyn!

Haldaman

Good for you, was it as successful as ours?

Dimsie

Yes, it worked, though we took a little longer than you I think. We probably just got under the wire at the end of August last year. Since then it appears the London Embassy has clamped down somewhat on DCF where the USC has not been resident for a substantial period in the UK. From what I've read on Visa Journey from time to time, several couples have been turned down and told to send their applications to the relevant US Service Centre.

Pulaski

What about salads consisting of "ledduce" and "tomaydoes"? When ordering lunch I got looks like I was speaking Greek until I realized that I was mispronouncing things!

Lynne

The "T' may be missing but the "R" has turned up in all sorts of places as in "Marzda" and "Nissarn".

And the one that gets me "erbs".

Thydney

They sell Neeesarns here.