Originally Posted by SanDiegogirl (Post 12911291)

What job and visa do you now have?

Originally Posted by SpoogleDrummer (Post 12911314)

So they sponsored you and your wife for a green card and less than a year later your wife is looking for another job? How can that possibly be financially viable for them? Seems like it would be cheaper for them to just use the sponsorship money and increase the salary they're offering for the job.

Originally Posted by SanDiegogirl (Post 12911318)

.... well why would you spend time and money sponsoring a janitor? With the greatest of respect, there is no shortage of US residents to do janitoring work. How did the company justify a visa for such a position?

If this is an EB-3 visa then one of the criteria is:

• You must be performing work for which qualified workers are not available in the United States.

Originally Posted by SYCU (Post 12911324)

An employer has to pay only for the labor certification cost, usually its not for few positions its for 50 or hundreds of positions on several locations. There is a shortage of people willing to work for these kind of jobs. I'm not doing the rules for the labor certfication maybe they're recruiting standard are too low but its another subject. but it seems that they get approvals by the department of labor so...

I don't know why this thread was moved out of the immigration forum by the way, since it's about immigration.

Originally Posted by SanDiegogirl (Post 12911329)

So who pays for the visa processing...?

Originally Posted by SYCU (Post 12911287)

I'm doing this post for the people who have no special education, no special skills, no family who can sponsor them, and dont want to go through the Hell visa known as e2 visa investor

There are some companies that work with employer in the US that have a hard time finding unskilled labor, these companies offer you an opportunity to work for them and to sponsor you for a green card.

I can already see people calling it a scam, too good to be true etc, and there are scams unfortunately. But do your due dillingence and decide for yourself.

Me and my wife went through the entire process from june 2018 and immigrate to the US in december 2019.

Originally Posted by SYCU (Post 12911348)

The future employee pays for the legal fees and the government fees https://legalservicesincorporated.co...een-card-fees/

Originally Posted by Noorah101 (Post 12911364)

So just to be clear, you received immigrant visas? And then became US PRs upon entry to the USA? And that all happened within 5 months?

How did your wife find out about the janitorial job, and how did she apply for it?

Where are you from originally?

Rene

Originally Posted by SYCU (Post 12911348)

The future employee pays for the legal fees and the government fees https://legalservicesincorporated.co...een-card-fees/

Originally Posted by SanDiegogirl (Post 12911368)

An interesting article from Propublica regarding employer sponsored Green cards and certain categories of people who go for them:

https://www.propublica.org/article/w...-chicken-plant

Originally Posted by christmasoompa (Post 12911370)

Normally the employer pays all visa related costs though. Presumably if you had to pay for those fees you didn’t get any kind of relocation package or similar either?

Originally Posted by Noorah101 (Post 12911364)

So just to be clear, you received immigrant visas? And then became US PRs upon entry to the USA? And that all happened within 5 months?

How did your wife find out about the janitorial job, and how did she apply for it?

Where are you from originally?

Rene

Originally Posted by SanDiegogirl (Post 12911375)

.... for a janitor job ? I should not think so.......

Originally Posted by SYCU (Post 12911393)

You have a permanent residency, thats enough for alot of people.

Originally Posted by christmasoompa (Post 12911371)

God how awful. Imagine being so desperate to get to the US that you’ll put up with that. :(

Originally Posted by SYCU (Post 12911391)

Yes we went to our consulate in Paris and were approved for an immigrant visa category eb3 unskilled, then we got our GC few weeks after our entry in the US. It took 19 months.
You have to pay a fee to the placement agency / immigration consultant firm. The companies who sponsor you never receive money which is stricly againt the laws

Originally Posted by civilservant (Post 12911562)

If this came to light in the media there would probably be an EO suspending the program within 2 weeks.

Originally Posted by lansbury (Post 12911467)

That or a marriage visa, tough choice :rofl:

Originally Posted by SanDiegogirl (Post 12911642)

Propublica knows about it, so sure other media outlets do....

Originally Posted by SYCU (Post 12911393)

You have a permanent residency, thats enough for alot of people.

Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 12911677)

Similar to the post a few months ago about a new graduate who had been in the US on an F-1 who took a job as a "consultant" with a consultancy/ employer that paid his visa fees, but placed him to work for a client. The client paid the consultancy a reasonable hourly rate for his services, but the consultancy firm paid the new graduate/ employee a pittance to claw back the visa fees, and presumably a generous profit. As the employee didn't "pay" the visa fees, the end-employer did through the hourly billing, the law was technically not broken, even though the employee was paid far below market for his services.

It's surprising what someone would do to put themselves in a situation where they are "surcharged" $00's/mth for heath insurance that other countries hide in their progressive taxation rates, and if they fall ill or are injured, they are at permanent risk of being billed for non-covered medical expenses (deductibles) that could bankrupt them. I am not sure on what level you are considering what you have achieved to be a "success: :confused:

Originally Posted by tht (Post 12911695)

Since they will still have their original Citizenship can’t they just return home if bankrupted? So look at is if more of an option than equity.... also we are assuming that the original citizenship is of a country with “socialized” healthcare because they mentioned the Paris embassy... my guess is they are from a 3rd county and France was a stop off...

Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 12911699)

Alot ofFrench people moved to the UK because of the difficulty of getting work in France, ...

Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 12911699)

Alot ofFrench people moved to the UK because of the difficulty of getting work in France, a lot of gig stuff but very difficult to get anything permanent.

Originally Posted by steph0scope (Post 12911711)

But they didn’t need visas and they have access to the NHS as residents.

I can’t for the life of me imagine how bad things must be in your homeland to consider moving to the US to work as a janitor with no safety net, likely no family support, no access to public assistance, in a hand-to-mouth existence, with one of the highest costs of living on earth. Kudos to you if it works for you. I imagine for many Brits it’s not an option they would even consider. We hear “desperate to move to America” on here a lot. I don’t think most of them are that desperate.

Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 12911700)

Also because of the French government's overt strategy of punitive income tax rates to fund social programs.

Originally Posted by tht (Post 12911714)

you don’t have to imagine, if you watch the news you can see for yourself, I am sure there are many countries in Africa/South America/ME and Asia where the social net is no better and probably worse than the US. Like I said my guess is this may not be a French Citizen, not sure where the UK came in to it.
Edit:
reading back to the 2016 posts by the OP maybe they are EU citizens... denied B2 despite being VW eligible and had property in the US they were trying to stay at for 6 months...

Originally Posted by tht (Post 12911715)

..... That said, they were easily able to move to “little Paris” in South Ken and it’s all set up with bakeries and other shops that have everything from home and French speaking schools so they did not seem to mind so much....

Originally Posted by steph0scope (Post 12911717)

I am aware. I mean it in the sense of “don’t want to see myself in that situation”. Prior to my illness, I traveled to India frequently with my job. It’s no surprise that a janitor job in even the most economically deprived area of the US would be attractive to many. Strange that a janitor can afford to own property overseas. My guess is they didn’t work as a janitor in their homeland. Unless they inherited the property...

Originally Posted by tht (Post 12911722)

.... I don’t really agree with all the talk of no social net here. Assuming your are educated and have a well paid job, you bank the significant tax savings and worst case there is state UI, COBRA, and other things like ACA. If it was a bad here as posters make out why are there here and why are Americans not trying to get to Canada/UK/EU... the reality is both have pros and cons and with some smarts my judgment was I would make out better here and to date I have.

Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 12911723)

I kinda agree with you but a lot of the random "I've always wanted to move to Florida" question here on BE, are from people who aren't well educated and don't have a well paid job, who seem to think that because you can get a room in a hotel for $80/night, rent a car for $30/day, and eat dinner at an AYCE buffet for $12, that America is a cheap place to live. :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by tht (Post 12911724)

yep, but back to the OP, assuming they did. as they said... you can look at it another way... it’s not 6 months as a low paid janitor.. compare its say spending $1m on an EB5, if this path costs $100k and 1 of them being a Janitor for 6 months... then net result is saving $900k which is $150k a month... now that’s a well paid janitor..

Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 12911723)

I kinda agree with you but a lot of the random "I've always wanted to move to Florida" question here on BE, are from people who aren't well educated and don't have a well paid job, who seem to think that because you can get a room in a hotel for $80/night, rent a car for $30/day, and eat dinner at an AYCE buffet for $12, that America is a cheap place to live. :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by neill (Post 12911738)

Not to mention, an EB-based visa means you can work anywhere else in addition to the job that sponsored you for the greencard (and not fall foul of not taking the job that 'sponsored' you in the first place), your partner gets a derivative GC, can work immediately, anywhere, in comparison to the H-1B which is largely a lottery, ultimately restricted to the field of employment, and the derivative H4 which requires an EAD that the govt keeps threatening to revoke.