Virgin Flight Stuck at US Airport for Hours
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Re: Virgin Flight Stuck at US Airport for Hours
Originally Posted by Englishmum
(Post 8652993)
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Re: Virgin Flight Stuck at US Airport for Hours
I'm a bit puzzled why they didn't just hook up a GPU to power the airplane systems while on the ground? That would have given them a/c. Maybe they charged too much for one?
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Re: Virgin Flight Stuck at US Airport for Hours
Why didn't they land at Logan airport in Boston. It's not too far away?
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Re: Virgin Flight Stuck at US Airport for Hours
Originally Posted by joto
(Post 8653207)
Why didn't they land at Logan airport in Boston. It's not too far away?
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Re: Virgin Flight Stuck at US Airport for Hours
Originally Posted by tonrob
(Post 8653024)
That's my local airport. Would've popped down with a bag of sprouts if I'd known.
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Re: Virgin Flight Stuck at US Airport for Hours
Originally Posted by Brit3964
(Post 8653150)
I'm a bit puzzled why they didn't just hook up a GPU to power the airplane systems while on the ground? That would have given them a/c. Maybe they charged too much for one?
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Re: Virgin Flight Stuck at US Airport for Hours
Originally Posted by AlienUk
(Post 8654999)
pure evil....
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Re: Virgin Flight Stuck at US Airport for Hours
Originally Posted by Zonie
(Post 8655086)
A GPU only provides electrical power. The A340 a/c runs off bleed air from an engine or the APU. I suspect the front end had departed and gone to Operations whilst all this was going on, leaving no one qualified to run the APU.
Assuming that each engine has one generator, that would mean all 4 generators failing at once. Pretty unlikely. Probably more likely the generator control bus failed. Maybe the CB kept popping? It happens. Why didn't they land at Logan airport in Boston. It's not too far away? |
Re: Virgin Flight Stuck at US Airport for Hours
Originally Posted by Zonie
(Post 8655086)
A GPU only provides electrical power. The A340 a/c runs off bleed air from an engine or the APU. I suspect the front end had departed and gone to Operations whilst all this was going on, leaving no one qualified to run the APU.
I think the biggest issue with keeping everyone on the plane was the need to have customs there before you could deplane, at Bradley they apparently get off work at 5pm, and although officers were called in, it was until a little after Midnight that customs began to process the flight. http://travel.usatoday.com/flights/p...hours-/97667/1 |
Re: Virgin Flight Stuck at US Airport for Hours
Originally Posted by Jsmth321
(Post 8655362)
From the reports I have read, the entire crew was on the plane as well.
I think the biggest issue with keeping everyone on the plane was the need to have customs there before you could deplane, at Bradley they apparently get off work at 5pm, and although officers were called in, it was until a little after Midnight that customs began to process the flight. http://travel.usatoday.com/flights/p...hours-/97667/1 |
Re: Virgin Flight Stuck at US Airport for Hours
Originally Posted by Brit3964
(Post 8655307)
Maybe? The article mentioned they had problems with the generators going offline. If they had a GPU, they might have been able to run one engine which would have given them a/c? I'll guess either they had no compatible GPU or it was too expensive.
Originally Posted by Brit3964
(Post 8655307)
Assuming that each engine has one generator, that would mean all 4 generators failing at once. Pretty unlikely. Probably more likely the generator control bus failed. Maybe the CB kept popping? It happens.
Originally Posted by Jsmth321
(Post 8655362)
From the reports I have read, the entire crew was on the plane as well.
I think the biggest issue with keeping everyone on the plane was the need to have customs there before you could deplane, at Bradley they apparently get off work at 5pm, and although officers were called in, it was until a little after Midnight that customs began to process the flight. http://travel.usatoday.com/flights/p...hours-/97667/1 Anyway it looks like Virgin is up for a fine. I wouldn’t like to be in the Captains shoes, something went wrong. http://travel.usatoday.com/flights/p...-delay/97818/1 |
Re: Virgin Flight Stuck at US Airport for Hours
Originally Posted by Zonie
(Post 8655500)
You don’t need a GPU to start the engines. The starter motors for the engines are air driven, powered by bleed air from the APU or via the bleed air system. The APU can be started from the aircraft batteries. The APU also has a generator.
Each engine driven generator has independent control (therefore it's own CB protection) and supplies its own associated AC BUS. Each engine can individually provide bleed air which is required to run the a/c packs, as can the APU. |
Re: Virgin Flight Stuck at US Airport for Hours
Why would you plan an ALT airport for landing without customs or immigration acceptance for an international flight?
surely as someone said, Logan or Philly, BWI, Dulles were more acceptable alternatives? |
Re: Virgin Flight Stuck at US Airport for Hours
VA are fast becoming the Ryanair of transatlantic traffic.
I say this with authority after the volcanic ash nightmare endured. One of their crew told me recently that they don't care about their US routes now, they are more interested in opening new routes to the Middle East and Africa.... |
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