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Kneeno Mar 9th 2012 3:18 am

Re: Using UK license in US
 

Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 9944634)
Not all immigranys get a SSN though, eg H4s.

Well yes, as you stated earlier in the thread. I was just relating my tale.

lansbury Mar 9th 2012 6:13 am

Re: Using UK license in US
 

Originally Posted by MarylandNed (Post 9944267)
That's very unusual...........snipped

Wisconsin is not Oregon. Oregon complies with the 1949 Geneva Convention on Driving Licenses of which the US is a signatory. That stipulates the 12 months time limit before you are required to obtain a local license. (It was my practical test in traffic law at the Met Police Training School in 1977, I was given a non UK license by the "driver" I was dealing with after an accident)

Most States ignore the international agreement and as Bob says having a local license makes things a whole lot easier for a host of reasons, so their action doesn't seem to have ever been challenged in a US court, as most get a State license asap.

lansbury Mar 9th 2012 6:19 am

Re: Using UK license in US
 

Originally Posted by MarylandNed (Post 9944318)

Like I said the web site quotes for people moving from another State. If you live here and speak to them to find out, you would know that like a lot of things the book doesn't cover all situations. As I spoke with several people from the DMV in Salem and State Police when I moved here I'll stick with what they all told me, they abide by the international requirement of 12 months for people arriving from outside the USA.

Bob Mar 9th 2012 6:31 am

Re: Using UK license in US
 

Originally Posted by lansbury (Post 9944895)
...I'll stick with what they all told me, they abide by the international requirement of 12 months for people arriving from outside the USA.

I know Texas and Maine are two other states that comply...but it's all made moot by the practicalities of it being nearly impossible finding car insurance to cover you on your UK license for that length of time, unless you happen to be a student in full time education.

Most want to see you get a local license within 3-6 months to maintain coverage, not to mention having the cost go down.

Also, considering you don't exist until you get a local license and considering how easy it is to get, one would be daft to put it off any longer than necessary...well unless the license is valid x number of years from your birthday, in which case if you were only a couple months short of, I could see wanting to put it off to get another year out of the license.

lansbury Mar 9th 2012 6:47 am

Re: Using UK license in US
 
Completely agree Bob, for practical purposes you need a State license as soon as you possible can get one. The question people should ask is not how long am I allowed to use my UK license but how quickly can I get a State one?

scrubbedexpat099 Mar 9th 2012 7:39 am

Re: Using UK license in US
 
I thought that the 1949 convention was for visitors/international trade etc, not residents.

My State allows 12 months for visitors.

MarylandNed Mar 9th 2012 2:40 pm

Re: Using UK license in US
 

Originally Posted by lansbury (Post 9944887)
Wisconsin is not Oregon. Oregon complies with the 1949 Geneva Convention on Driving Licenses of which the US is a signatory. That stipulates the 12 months time limit before you are required to obtain a local license. (It was my practical test in traffic law at the Met Police Training School in 1977, I was given a non UK license by the "driver" I was dealing with after an accident)

Most States ignore the international agreement and as Bob says having a local license makes things a whole lot easier for a host of reasons, so their action doesn't seem to have ever been challenged in a US court, as most get a State license asap.

Right but I thought that convention only applied to visitors. Once you take up residence in a state, you are subject to the same state laws as other residents. I posted this earlier regarding Oregon:

http://www.oregon.gov/ODOT/DMV/drive...y.shtml#res_or

Residency may be established by a number of actions, described in the list below and in ORS 803.200 and ORS 807.062. Once you have become a resident of Oregon, you are required by Oregon law to obtain Oregon vehicle title and registration and to obtain an Oregon Driver License or Instruction Permit. Failure to register a vehicle once residency has been established is a Class D traffic violation. Failure to obtain an Oregon Driver License or Instruction Permit once residency has been established is a Class B traffic violation.

If you are uncertain whether you qualify for an Oregon Driver License, ID Card, or Oregon Vehicle Registration, ask yourself the following questions:

Do I remain in Oregon for a consecutive period of six months or more each year?
Have I enrolled my children in an Oregon public school without payment of nonresident tuition fees?
Do I pay Oregon resident tuition fees at an educational institution maintained by public funds?
Have I made a declaration to be a resident of Oregon for the purpose of obtaining, at resident rates, a state license (other than an Oregon Driver License)?
Is Oregon listed as my home of record in my military records?
Do I pay resident income taxes to the state of Oregon?

lansbury Mar 9th 2012 5:09 pm

Re: Using UK license in US
 
I have posted a couple of times what I was told when I asked and my professional understanding of the relevant international convention. Do you have some point to prove by your repeated comments because I see little point in keep repeating what I have already said, especially as it is a relatively unimportant point as there are considerable advantages to obtaining a US license as quickly as possible.

MarylandNed Mar 9th 2012 5:30 pm

Re: Using UK license in US
 

Originally Posted by lansbury (Post 9945493)
I have posted a couple of times what I was told when I asked and my professional understanding of the relevant international convention. Do you have some point to prove by your repeated comments because I see little point in keep repeating what I have already said, especially as it is a relatively unimportant point as there are considerable advantages to obtaining a US license as quickly as possible.

You're relating what you've been told and what your understanding is. I'm quoting the Oregon state law. I simply think it's possible that you've been given incorrect information. The international convention is usually only for non-residents and is superseded by Oregon state law.

From the Oregon DMV link I provided earlier, it certainly appears that legally you must obtain an Oregon driver's license once you establish residency. I mean that's very clearly what it says isn't it? So it's more than just a question of it being advantageous to obtain an Oregon license after becoming a state resident - it appears that it's mandatory that you do so if you want to continue driving legally. They've listed a number of scenarios under which you establish residency of Oregon (e.g paying state income tax, enrolling kids in school, etc).


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