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Old Sep 3rd 2019, 4:01 pm
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Originally Posted by Jerseygirl
You moved to the US...what ethics were involved?
Clearly Britain will soon be 3rd world so perhaps the US should sign up to the WHO mandate also (it never has) pose the same question to those British Gp's now sitting on a beach on the Gold Coast coining in $300k Ozzie bucks
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Old Sep 3rd 2019, 4:17 pm
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Originally Posted by civilservant
I don't consider the exorbitant MD salaries in the US to be bribes. They have to pay it to attract talent.
Do they?

You don't think you could chop $100,000 or so off a physician's income and people would still be queuing out the door to do the job?
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Old Sep 3rd 2019, 4:42 pm
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You don't think you could chop $100,000 or so off a physician's income and people would still be queuing out the door to do the job?
Almost certainly
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Old Sep 3rd 2019, 6:41 pm
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Originally Posted by civilservant
Almost certainly
Given there is already close to a 100k doctor shortage in the US where are these mysterious queues you are seeing?! What a dumb delusional comment.
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Old Sep 3rd 2019, 6:59 pm
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Originally Posted by expatdoc
Given there is already close to a 100k doctor shortage in the US where are these mysterious queues you are seeing?! What a dumb delusional comment.
Of course there's a shortage of doctors - the medical cartel likes it that way since it helps drive up wages, the same way the unions in the UK lobby to keep places at universities there artificially low.

Unless you're trying to tell us that there are not currently more applications than places, that every qualified kid can go and that it's just all a mirage?
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Originally Posted by expatdoc
Clearly Britain will soon be 3rd world so perhaps the US should sign up to the WHO mandate also (it never has) pose the same question to those British Gp's now sitting on a beach on the Gold Coast coining in $300k Ozzie bucks
Why are you so bitter sounding in your posts?
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Old Sep 3rd 2019, 7:02 pm
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Originally Posted by expatdoc
Clearly Britain will soon be 3rd world so perhaps the US should sign up to the WHO mandate also (it never has) pose the same question to those British Gp's now sitting on a beach on the Gold Coast coining in $300k Ozzie bucks
For an educated guy you do come out with some dumb ideas.
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Originally Posted by Jerseygirl
For an educated guy you do come out with some dumb ideas.
Because he's being forced into defending a position that anyone that isn't a $$$ hungry MD can't actually defend or even rationalize. So instead he hurls derogatoriness.

Given there is already close to a 100k doctor shortage in the US where are these mysterious queues you are seeing?! What a dumb delusional comment.
So recruit some of them there foreign docs that seem to come flocking for the lolly. Oh, wait.
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Originally Posted by civilservant
So recruit some of them there foreign docs that seem to come flocking for the lolly. Oh, wait.
Answer the question where are these queues of eligible doctors waiting to fill the posts?
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I'm sure Somalia has some. Or the US could nab some more UK trained mercenary MDs like yourself .
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Originally Posted by civilservant
I'm sure Somalia has some. Or the US could nab some more UK trained mercenary MDs like yourself .
Am sure Trump would love the idea of recruiting from a country that he tried to ban all citizens there from entering. Clearly the concept of residency and licensing is an alien one on here.

I remember one of my colleagues back home who was equally hacked off with NHS spin and bureaucracy said to me just before I left 'If you ever get a Brit as a patient charge them triple if not more' - Easy to see now why
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If you ever get a Brit as a patient charge them triple if not more' - Easy to see now why
Also easy to see, based on that comment, why the sympathy for you poor underpaid MDs is zero on these forms.
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Originally Posted by expatdoc
Answer the question where are these queues of eligible doctors waiting to fill the posts?
In terms of the UK, here you go: https://www.theguardian.com/society/...will-be-lifted

The number of visas was previously capped at just over 20,000 a year, and the cap has been hit in recent years before it was lifted.

Bear in mind this is nowhere near the total number of foreign doctors coming to the UK, just those who are from outside the EU (since by definition EU doctors are visa-exempt).

The GMC could probably supply the full details of those registering through foreign qualifications versus those enforcing community rights, for those who care enough to continue arguing about it.
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Originally Posted by expatdoc

I remember one of my colleagues back home who was equally hacked off with NHS spin and bureaucracy said to me just before I left 'If you ever get a Brit as a patient charge them triple if not more' - Easy to see now why
To echo an earlier poster, you sound very bitter and it's not clear why that's so. If working in the US suits you better than in the UK then that's great, you're where you want and need to be. You should be happy, not bitter.
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Originally Posted by civilservant
Also easy to see, based on that comment, why the sympathy for you poor underpaid MDs is zero on these forms.
Never asked for your sympathy, your greenbacks and credit card swipes is all that is needed. Anyhow if you hate the system so much a) why live here and b) why work in the world of healthcare finance an equally profit driven sector of healthcare here (not for profit is total baloney) which you equally benefit from
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