USA vs UK healthcare - physician perspective
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Great you have made a killing out of others suffering, to come on here and gloat about it seems a bit rich.
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I'm not totally against the insurance companies insisting on us using in-network doctors either as it helps to keep costs down - the "in network" docs have agreed to charge a particular amount which is usually cheaper (a lot) than their standard charges.
However, I have always been astounded at the amount that private drs charge in the UK. One dermatologist charges 480UKP per new patient consultation ( 30 minutes) then a mere 270UKP for subsequent appointments.
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unfortunately, in the USA Dr's salaries are easy to blame for the extortionate cost of medical care for us.
I'm not totally against the insurance companies insisting on us using in-network doctors either as it helps to keep costs down - the "in network" docs have agreed to charge a particular amount which is usually cheaper (a lot) than their standard charges.
I'm not totally against the insurance companies insisting on us using in-network doctors either as it helps to keep costs down - the "in network" docs have agreed to charge a particular amount which is usually cheaper (a lot) than their standard charges.
I remember being surprised to learn while watching classic Japanese films from the '50s and '60s that average GP-type doctors in that country have historically had fairly mediocre social status.
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We don't have private options in Canada for the most part, but if your not a resident and thus lack health coverage here, the costs are quite high especially hospital stay's. Can see a walk in clinic doctor for around $150-$200 CAD$, an ER visit is pretty high $600-$700 base rate + doctor fees + lab fees and such, the new urgent care was somewhere around $600-$700 to see the doctor if not covered + any costs for lab/diagnostic tests.
unfortunately, in the USA Dr's salaries are easy to blame for the extortionate cost of medical care for us.
I'm not totally against the insurance companies insisting on us using in-network doctors either as it helps to keep costs down - the "in network" docs have agreed to charge a particular amount which is usually cheaper (a lot) than their standard charges.
However, I have always been astounded at the amount that private drs charge in the UK. One dermatologist charges 480UKP per new patient consultation ( 30 minutes) then a mere 270UKP for subsequent appointments.
I'm not totally against the insurance companies insisting on us using in-network doctors either as it helps to keep costs down - the "in network" docs have agreed to charge a particular amount which is usually cheaper (a lot) than their standard charges.
However, I have always been astounded at the amount that private drs charge in the UK. One dermatologist charges 480UKP per new patient consultation ( 30 minutes) then a mere 270UKP for subsequent appointments.
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This argument is flawed as in the UK all degrees are subsidized by the taxpayer so are you saying that every single graduate that goes to work out of the country has to pay their fees back?
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Thats the biggest point in favour of NHS. If you need medical help, its there, free at point of use.
As someone who currently cannot afford the medical care she needs, due to the cost of using the system in Australia, I have to say I will never complain about the NHS again.
As someone who currently cannot afford the medical care she needs, due to the cost of using the system in Australia, I have to say I will never complain about the NHS again.
Paid enough tax during my years in the NHS to more than cover the University fees and what about the taxes both my parents paid for decades also.
This argument is flawed as in the UK all degrees are subsidized by the taxpayer so are you saying that every single graduate that goes to work out of the country has to pay their fees back? No, then why pick on doctors then??
This argument is flawed as in the UK all degrees are subsidized by the taxpayer so are you saying that every single graduate that goes to work out of the country has to pay their fees back? No, then why pick on doctors then??
As for the comment about a man wanting only a man to do a Prostate exam or a woman only wanting a woman to do a Pap Smear, that's weird imo. I'll take whoever is best qualified. My old GP was a guy and my current one is a female, both excellent and both more than capable of doing my internal exams or of diagnosing 'female' issues.
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Ludicrous statement given the Brits have raped the 3rd world of doctors and nurses for decades to plug their staffing deficits in the places no locals want to venture! Brits dont seem to give a toss then about the public in their own countries suffering with no care. How do you attract them? Financial bribes essentially shock horror.
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Ludicrous statement given the Brits have raped the 3rd world of doctors and nurses for decades to plug their staffing deficits in the places no locals want to venture! Brits dont seem to give a toss then about the public in their own countries suffering with no care. How do you attract them? Financial bribes essentially shock horror.
Offering physicians perks to prescribe certain drugs is a bribe.
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Ludicrous statement given the Brits have raped the 3rd world of doctors and nurses for decades to plug their staffing deficits in the places no locals want to venture! Brits dont seem to give a toss then about the public in their own countries suffering with no care. How do you attract them? Financial bribes essentially shock horror.
All the doctors I know in the UK have an excellent standard of living.
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GP numbers are dropping by about 1k a year with the efflux going to Oz and Canada. Clearly something is going seriously wrong in the UK and post Brexit it will slowly slide into an isolated runt of a nation. The drug shortages enveloping the nation there already are just the start of it.
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There is an ethical issue taking professional staff away from their own countries while most of their own citizens go without even basic care. Indeed Britain signed up to a WHO mandate not to recruit from the 3rd world but conveniently ignores it time and again when it pleases them.
GP numbers are dropping by about 1k a year with the efflux going to Oz and Canada. Clearly something is going seriously wrong in the UK and post Brexit it will slowly slide into an isolated runt of a nation. The drug shortages enveloping the nation there already are just the start of it.
GP numbers are dropping by about 1k a year with the efflux going to Oz and Canada. Clearly something is going seriously wrong in the UK and post Brexit it will slowly slide into an isolated runt of a nation. The drug shortages enveloping the nation there already are just the start of it.