US mortgage denied because of UK mortgages
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Also mortgage brokers will only work with lenders that are willing to pay for the mortgage brokers services. Many credit unions and regional banks don't trust mortgage brokers and/or don't want to pay their fee so mortgage brokers won't work with those lenders.
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Re: US mortgage denied because of UK mortgages
In all my years in USA I have bought (jointly with then spouse) five houses and several refinances.
Every time we approached a lender directly we had a good experience. Every time we used a mortgage broker we had a bad experience, needlessly huge amounts of documentation, suddenly worsened terms at the last minute, junk fees at the last minute, plain refusals not replicated elsewhere, damaged credit through too many enquiries, and most of all deceptive interest rates.
My advice, avoid loan brokers like the plague, deal only with principals.
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Re: US mortgage denied because of UK mortgages
Great information everyone. I don't know anything about credit unions so I hadn't thought of that.
Just for info: I spoke with an ex-Wells Fargo underwriter and he said that as long as I had 2 months US pay stubs and UK tax returns then that should be enough. I think that perhaps my underwriter or broker is getting confused!!!!
Thank you
Andrea
Just for info: I spoke with an ex-Wells Fargo underwriter and he said that as long as I had 2 months US pay stubs and UK tax returns then that should be enough. I think that perhaps my underwriter or broker is getting confused!!!!
Thank you
Andrea
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So hurry up and file your 2012 taxes, declaring your UK rental income, then file a copy of that with your mortgage application. .... That should make them happy, no?
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Great information everyone. I don't know anything about credit unions so I hadn't thought of that.
Just for info: I spoke with an ex-Wells Fargo underwriter and he said that as long as I had 2 months US pay stubs and UK tax returns then that should be enough. I think that perhaps my underwriter or broker is getting confused!!!! ...
Just for info: I spoke with an ex-Wells Fargo underwriter and he said that as long as I had 2 months US pay stubs and UK tax returns then that should be enough. I think that perhaps my underwriter or broker is getting confused!!!! ...
Wells Fargo originated one third of US mortgages last year, and in some months as much as 40%! So I can't help but think that if you can't get Wells Fargo to lend to you to buy a home, you are going to have difficulty anywhere.
Last edited by Pulaski; Feb 21st 2013 at 10:23 pm.
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You're in Katy - I can suggest a broker who can get you as good a deal as Wells Fargo. I've just gone through the process of getting pre-qualified with both. One has been sorted for over a month. The other still hasn't managed to do that. I'm paid in the UK. You can guess which has not managed, and I've banked with them for over two years.
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I found Wells Fargo to be very helpful and accommodating when I purchased a home last summer, under my own rather unusual set of circumstances, but damn! did they ask a lot of questions!
Wells Fargo originated one third of US mortgages last year, and in some months as much as 40%! So I can't help but think that if you can't get Wells Fargo to lend to you to buy a home, you are going to have difficulty anywhere.
Wells Fargo originated one third of US mortgages last year, and in some months as much as 40%! So I can't help but think that if you can't get Wells Fargo to lend to you to buy a home, you are going to have difficulty anywhere.
Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and Ginnie Mae, the three major Government Enterprises created to control the U.S. housing market, issued 99.3 percent of all mortgage backed securities (MBS) in 2012.
http://washingtonexaminer.com/federa...rticle/2522042
So it appears that most of the banks are selling their mortgages to the GSE's and the GSE's are bundling them and selling them to investors. Nobody trusts MBS's acquired and bundled by wall street anymore. Although all mortgages are not bundled into MBS's, I suspect that the vast majority are.
Last edited by Michael; Feb 21st 2013 at 10:56 pm.
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We've just closed on buying a house in the US, and we had not been here long enough to provide two years worth of W-2s. The bank we used (Prospect Financial) has experience of providing loans to ex-pats and other non-standard borrowers, and accepted our P-60s/P-45s for evidence of income from the UK for the tax year before we moved over.
When we met with our loan officers they said that they'd dealt with more complex ex-pat cases than ours and were generally pretty good at handling non-US documentation. We had sold our property in the UK shortly after moving so didn't have that complication, so I can't speak as to how they'd deal with that.
I don't know if they operate in TX but as they have offices in the mid-West and CA as well as NY, I think they are probably nationwide. PM me if you'd like the contact details of the people I dealt with here in NYS. if nothing else I'm sure they'd be able to put you in touch with their colleagues who cover TX if they do operate there.
When we met with our loan officers they said that they'd dealt with more complex ex-pat cases than ours and were generally pretty good at handling non-US documentation. We had sold our property in the UK shortly after moving so didn't have that complication, so I can't speak as to how they'd deal with that.
I don't know if they operate in TX but as they have offices in the mid-West and CA as well as NY, I think they are probably nationwide. PM me if you'd like the contact details of the people I dealt with here in NYS. if nothing else I'm sure they'd be able to put you in touch with their colleagues who cover TX if they do operate there.
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Re: US mortgage denied because of UK mortgages
we had exactly the same problem and you will find it very hard broker or not to get around this. We had 65% to put down but in the same position with a salary still coming in from the uk and tax returns for a year. There is a solotion hard money lending a lot of old guys are doing it yes you pay 2-4% above base rate but at least your on the ladder and in two years you have a credit score for the bank tax returns and you have been living where you want to be. We used a British guy in the US who put us in contact with an investor we are just about to take a bank mortgage out now as our two years are up, but we had to move fast as the house we wanted was a shortsale on the market for $750 down from $1.2 it took us 9 months of worry but soooo worth it market value is now just over $1 mil and a house to die for if you need contact details PM me
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I found Wells Fargo to be very helpful and accommodating when I purchased a home last summer, under my own rather unusual set of circumstances, but damn! did they ask a lot of questions!
Wells Fargo originated one third of US mortgages last year, and in some months as much as 40%! So I can't help but think that if you can't get Wells Fargo to lend to you to buy a home, you are going to have difficulty anywhere.
Wells Fargo originated one third of US mortgages last year, and in some months as much as 40%! So I can't help but think that if you can't get Wells Fargo to lend to you to buy a home, you are going to have difficulty anywhere.
If you're standardly average and fit inside the rigid template, the regular bank or CU might well be your best bet. The advantage of a good broker is that they will might have 10x the products that visiting a single institution would give you, including possible access to private lenders