British Expats

British Expats (https://britishexpats.com/forum/)
-   USA (https://britishexpats.com/forum/usa-57/)
-   -   Is US Middle Class similar to UK Middle Class ? (https://britishexpats.com/forum/usa-57/us-middle-class-similar-uk-middle-class-748628/)

kimilseung Feb 17th 2012 6:33 pm

Re: Is US Middle Class similar to UK Middle Class ?
 

Originally Posted by Anian (Post 9907585)
I think you misunderstood me. In the US there is only poor, rich, and middle class; as opposed to the UK which is working class, middle class, and upper class.

Americans pride themselves on having created a "classless society" but what they really mean is that they renamed the classes and based it purely on money. I expect that in in the older parts of the USA there are people who think of themselves as aristocracy (inherited fortunes, ideas on what is proper) but I don't think anyone else sees them that way.

The interesting questions are when and how did the new definitions develop. It is part of the political mythology, that helps people in America to accept the status quo; but to its actual origins, I have no knowledge.

robin1234 Feb 17th 2012 8:01 pm

Re: Is US Middle Class similar to UK Middle Class ?
 

Originally Posted by kimilseung (Post 9907596)
The interesting questions are when and how did the new definitions develop. It is part of the political mythology, that helps people in America to accept the status quo; but to its actual origins, I have no knowledge.

I was looking through an old issue of The New Yorker the other day, from the mid-1920s. Then, like now, the advertising in The New Yorker is blatantly aimed at very wealthy & privileged people. There was a full page ad promoting a new building in Manhattan where you could rent a luxury apartment.. the headline was something like "Only the right sort of people will live here.." or words to that effect. I'm assuming it meant no Jews need apply. At other times and places, no blacks; no Native Americans; no Italians; no Germans; no Chinese, etc. I think part of the reason for the "classless" nature of America is that there is always some group to be excluded so those of us invited to the table feel a certain equality..

Lola-Monmouth Feb 17th 2012 8:25 pm

Re: Is US Middle Class similar to UK Middle Class ?
 
Interesting. I tentatively hold the Marxist view of class. My parents were unskilled workers although my father was in the army for years and ended up as a Warrant Officer. However I have a degree and a professional qualification but still consider myself (aspirational) working class in the UK. My husband is upper middle class and I think if myself as middle class in the USA. Part of the reason I think of myself as English working class is my accent. Not only is it far from plummy it is northern. I can't think of anyone in the UK with a regional accent who would be considered upper middle class. Is accent relevant here too?

scrubbedexpat099 Feb 17th 2012 8:33 pm

Re: Is US Middle Class similar to UK Middle Class ?
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/collecti...gs4vy#p00hhrwl

There does not seem an embed option but this sums it up.


All times are GMT. The time now is 12:18 am.

Powered by vBulletin: ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.