US hype?
#181
Re: US hype?
Originally Posted by Dan725
I've nearly managed to do it a couple of times, which brings me to my other peeve about working here - people never get back to you, and you are generally treated like shit during the hiring process.
Two different companies have interviewed me multiple times, almost told me I've got the job (one did actually say that), then......nothing. After much trying to get in touch, it appears the corporate budget was cut and the positions did not open up - well cheers for telling me.
The other one, I had a great interview with, and then.....nothing. If its not this, its people trying to get you to work for peanuts. Thoroughly pissed off with the whole work affair to be honest.
Two different companies have interviewed me multiple times, almost told me I've got the job (one did actually say that), then......nothing. After much trying to get in touch, it appears the corporate budget was cut and the positions did not open up - well cheers for telling me.
The other one, I had a great interview with, and then.....nothing. If its not this, its people trying to get you to work for peanuts. Thoroughly pissed off with the whole work affair to be honest.
Worst one was someone who after 3 months finally got offered a job. Having been told during the interview process that $x would not be a problem they were offered $x-5 first off. They asked for $x and that was it - they wouldn't budge.
My friend refused to be messed about. The company subsequently readvertised the position but with a lower skillset and had to shelve projects they had coming up as a result of taking longer to get someone - all for a poxy $5k a year. Seems my friend got off lucky - what kind of morons think that makes a good business decision - getting a less skilled person who will have to be trained, taking time to interview more candidates and delaying work, all for the princely sum of $100 a week - nice work.
#182
Re: US hype?
Originally Posted by Moving?
My sisters friend in Chicago (she may be on this board?!) said sometimes she goes to work (advertising) and the boss says "Let's all go ideate - have an ideation session!" Drives her crazy, but may be another word to add to your corporate vocabulary if you are in the right industry!
We came up with this word when I was in England... ahhh, those fond memories!
#183
Re: US hype?
Originally Posted by angelman
...My english friend asked me if I was going to live in san francisco when I told her I was moving to LA. She thought that they were pretty much in the same place...
#184
Re: US hype?
Originally Posted by Moving?
... I found eating out a lot cheaper than buying food at (in MI) Meijer, which I found more expensive than Tesco. However, I rarely found the shelves empty - especially later in the day - in the US supermarkets. When I had a friend come to UK and took them to Tesco one night (I'm sure it's part of everyone's UK sightseeing tour ), it was embarrassing the number of empty shelves. They said it was like a large Aldi... I'm sure Tesco would be happy to hear that
#185
Re: US hype?
Originally Posted by BigDavyG
Hasn't happened to me (yet) but I've some shocking hiring stories from others.
Worst one was someone who after 3 months finally got offered a job. Having been told during the interview process that $x would not be a problem they were offered $x-5 first off. They asked for $x and that was it - they wouldn't budge.
My friend refused to be messed about. The company subsequently readvertised the position but with a lower skillset and had to shelve projects they had coming up as a result of taking longer to get someone - all for a poxy $5k a year. Seems my friend got off lucky - what kind of morons think that makes a good business decision - getting a less skilled person who will have to be trained, taking time to interview more candidates and delaying work, all for the princely sum of $100 a week - nice work.
Worst one was someone who after 3 months finally got offered a job. Having been told during the interview process that $x would not be a problem they were offered $x-5 first off. They asked for $x and that was it - they wouldn't budge.
My friend refused to be messed about. The company subsequently readvertised the position but with a lower skillset and had to shelve projects they had coming up as a result of taking longer to get someone - all for a poxy $5k a year. Seems my friend got off lucky - what kind of morons think that makes a good business decision - getting a less skilled person who will have to be trained, taking time to interview more candidates and delaying work, all for the princely sum of $100 a week - nice work.
It all seems very slipshod in comparison with the UK - here they never post salary ranges for professional positions, they never have defined cut off dates, and a lot of the time they don't even reply. Note that I'm not talking about applying on Monster or such, I'm actually getting past that stage to real individuals who then see fit to ignore you after stringing you along. I just think ignoring people is the worst thing you can do and surpasses all other bad manners tenfold.
I sometimes wonder if it goes down to the no-nonsense British thing - if I'm not a suitable candidate I want to hear exactly that - I have broad shoulders. Perhaps here they don't want to offend anyone - but to me its more offensive to be ignored (or "held on file") than being told to piss off and never come back.
I think the tight economy having an impact on attitudes, in todays environment the employer is wearing the shoes. But it really gives you a very bad impression of them when you get ignored, and it will surely backfire on them in future, when the market turns for the better and there are more jobs than applicants, and all they can employ are the lower skilled ones.
Last edited by Dan725; Nov 28th 2006 at 12:29 pm.
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Re: US hype?
Originally Posted by Moving?
Regarding work, and Americans "not knowing any better", do you think they think that they have the best working conditions in the world and that anywhere else would be worse? I don't mean the ones (like I worked for) who have international offices and know the UK (in general) has better holidays etc.
Dan725 has said all you need to know really, work in the US is not separate from home, they want your life. Hence the most important family holiday in the US Thanksgiving gets a whopping one day to be enjoyed. Lots of my friends have returned to work 2 weeks after their babies were born, you get medical benefits through work but often times they are not adequate I could go on but I do have a somewhat tainted view seeing as I'm just a bitter haglet off to Blighty in 2007.
#187
Re: US hype?
Originally Posted by Hayley
I'm just a bitter haglet off to Blighty in 2007.
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Re: US hype?
Originally Posted by Ray
LOL...thats gotta be your title Hayley ....
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Re: US hype?
Originally Posted by Hayley
Couldn't fit it all in
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Re: US hype?
The real irony here is that whilst espousing their so called freedoms they put down anyone daring to use the term liberal..
liberal - liberate - to free something - freedom...
in a sense arent these words interchangeable. I have always wanted to ask an all american freedom nut this question. How can you talk about freedom and at the same time put down anyone using the word liberal. Surely the two are part of the same?
Ironically again America feels very close to a socialist state. Huge amounts of red tape, punitive fines and actions but hard line law enforcement. A very large and intrusive security service, ever diminishing freedoms of speech (no swearing please), over bearing use of eminent domain means the government effecitvely controls land use as they please, lack of choice in almost everything (there is an illusion of choice created by putting the same product in different coloured boxes and sometimes dyed different colours but its not actualyl a real choice), conformity, monopolies. The difference between the US is that in say Russia it was all down to the unelected government whereas here its a sort of unholy collusion between big business and government, neither of which really has much interest in the welfare of the people I think.
I am continously amazed at how centralised this country is. How can the most capitalistic soceity in the world be so amazing uncompetitive? Just look at cable, tv, phone, internet.. in reality there is very little choice and worse still very little oversight...
liberal - liberate - to free something - freedom...
in a sense arent these words interchangeable. I have always wanted to ask an all american freedom nut this question. How can you talk about freedom and at the same time put down anyone using the word liberal. Surely the two are part of the same?
Ironically again America feels very close to a socialist state. Huge amounts of red tape, punitive fines and actions but hard line law enforcement. A very large and intrusive security service, ever diminishing freedoms of speech (no swearing please), over bearing use of eminent domain means the government effecitvely controls land use as they please, lack of choice in almost everything (there is an illusion of choice created by putting the same product in different coloured boxes and sometimes dyed different colours but its not actualyl a real choice), conformity, monopolies. The difference between the US is that in say Russia it was all down to the unelected government whereas here its a sort of unholy collusion between big business and government, neither of which really has much interest in the welfare of the people I think.
I am continously amazed at how centralised this country is. How can the most capitalistic soceity in the world be so amazing uncompetitive? Just look at cable, tv, phone, internet.. in reality there is very little choice and worse still very little oversight...
Originally Posted by Hayley
They either don't know how it works elsewhere or I think they feel that there is no way to make such a system work in the US without us all going commie or liberal (liberal is a dirty word in much of the states)
Dan725 has said all you need to know really, work in the US is not separate from home, they want your life. Hence the most important family holiday in the US Thanksgiving gets a whopping one day to be enjoyed. Lots of my friends have returned to work 2 weeks after their babies were born, you get medical benefits through work but often times they are not adequate I could go on but I do have a somewhat tainted view seeing as I'm just a bitter haglet off to Blighty in 2007.
Dan725 has said all you need to know really, work in the US is not separate from home, they want your life. Hence the most important family holiday in the US Thanksgiving gets a whopping one day to be enjoyed. Lots of my friends have returned to work 2 weeks after their babies were born, you get medical benefits through work but often times they are not adequate I could go on but I do have a somewhat tainted view seeing as I'm just a bitter haglet off to Blighty in 2007.
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Re: US hype?
Originally Posted by angelman
The real irony here is that whilst espousing their so called freedoms they put down anyone daring to use the term liberal..
liberal - liberate - to free something - freedom...
in a sense arent these words interchangeable. I have always wanted to ask an all american freedom nut this question. How can you talk about freedom and at the same time put down anyone using the word liberal. Surely the two are part of the same?
Ironically again America feels very close to a socialist state. Huge amounts of red tape, punitive fines and actions but hard line law enforcement. A very large and intrusive security service, ever diminishing freedoms of speech (no swearing please), over bearing use of eminent domain means the government effecitvely controls land use as they please, lack of choice in almost everything (there is an illusion of choice created by putting the same product in different coloured boxes and sometimes dyed different colours but its not actualyl a real choice), conformity, monopolies. The difference between the US is that in say Russia it was all down to the unelected government whereas here its a sort of unholy collusion between big business and government, neither of which really has much interest in the welfare of the people I think.
I am continously amazed at how centralised this country is. How can the most capitalistic soceity in the world be so amazing uncompetitive? Just look at cable, tv, phone, internet.. in reality there is very little choice and worse still very little oversight...
liberal - liberate - to free something - freedom...
in a sense arent these words interchangeable. I have always wanted to ask an all american freedom nut this question. How can you talk about freedom and at the same time put down anyone using the word liberal. Surely the two are part of the same?
Ironically again America feels very close to a socialist state. Huge amounts of red tape, punitive fines and actions but hard line law enforcement. A very large and intrusive security service, ever diminishing freedoms of speech (no swearing please), over bearing use of eminent domain means the government effecitvely controls land use as they please, lack of choice in almost everything (there is an illusion of choice created by putting the same product in different coloured boxes and sometimes dyed different colours but its not actualyl a real choice), conformity, monopolies. The difference between the US is that in say Russia it was all down to the unelected government whereas here its a sort of unholy collusion between big business and government, neither of which really has much interest in the welfare of the people I think.
I am continously amazed at how centralised this country is. How can the most capitalistic soceity in the world be so amazing uncompetitive? Just look at cable, tv, phone, internet.. in reality there is very little choice and worse still very little oversight...
#192
Re: US hype?
Originally Posted by Hayley
They either don't know how it works elsewhere or I think they feel that there is no way to make such a system work in the US without us all going commie or liberal (liberal is a dirty word in much of the states)
Dan725 has said all you need to know really, work in the US is not separate from home, they want your life. Hence the most important family holiday in the US Thanksgiving gets a whopping one day to be enjoyed. Lots of my friends have returned to work 2 weeks after their babies were born, you get medical benefits through work but often times they are not adequate I could go on but I do have a somewhat tainted view seeing as I'm just a bitter haglet off to Blighty in 2007.
Dan725 has said all you need to know really, work in the US is not separate from home, they want your life. Hence the most important family holiday in the US Thanksgiving gets a whopping one day to be enjoyed. Lots of my friends have returned to work 2 weeks after their babies were born, you get medical benefits through work but often times they are not adequate I could go on but I do have a somewhat tainted view seeing as I'm just a bitter haglet off to Blighty in 2007.
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Re: US hype?
here is a nice little movie to watch about americas "freedoms". its directed by aaron russo, producer of trading places. watch and learn!
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?...dom+to+fascism
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?...dom+to+fascism
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Re: US hype?
Originally Posted by Old William
I bet you feel happier now you've made the decision?
Realtor came and is keen to list at price we wanted. feel very ill bag of nerves- what if I end up playing with the chavs?
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Re: US hype?
Free to make more money. hehe
Free to pay less for food, maybe???
Btw, while living in the UK, I never felt any less freedom than in the US. Didn't feel any freer, pretty much felt the same. Except for the fact that I'm of Irish Catholic background. Sort of a problem, if one doesn't like to be the butt of bad jokes...Then again, that happens in the US, especially outside of places like NY, which have huge Catholic populations. Oh, I'm not a practicing Catholic...lol.
Free to pay less for food, maybe???
Btw, while living in the UK, I never felt any less freedom than in the US. Didn't feel any freer, pretty much felt the same. Except for the fact that I'm of Irish Catholic background. Sort of a problem, if one doesn't like to be the butt of bad jokes...Then again, that happens in the US, especially outside of places like NY, which have huge Catholic populations. Oh, I'm not a practicing Catholic...lol.