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Old May 17th 2007, 8:19 pm
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Originally Posted by snowbunny
If the deal goes through I assure you that there will be current H-1B holders who wished they'd gone out of status on the 31st December.

Though possibly if they worked on the side (or their H-4 spouses worked) that might count? Cos is it only illegal presence, or illegally working? Two different matters.
I started a thread in the Immigration Forum.

As I understand it there are as many Unathorised Workers sic who enter with inspection as there are those who do not. Or not a lot either way, still many millions.

So I can not see why H4's, E2's etc can not apply. I have a friend on a B who may benefit. Seems to me that you just need to have been here before this year and worked illegally, baby sitting should do it, or cutting next doors lawn.
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So I can not see why H4's, E2's etc can not apply. I have a friend on a B who may benefit. Seems to me that you just need to have been here before this year and worked illegally, baby sitting should do it, or cutting next doors lawn.
Absolutely, which is why this bill would tend to benefit not the day labourer but rather people with enough cash to buy their way in.
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Originally Posted by fatbrit
But early reports state there will be a general move away from family-based immigration towards skill based. Looks like they're considering limiting the numbers for parental immigration for starters.
Parents are Z2.

The new proposal would augment that system with a merit-based program that would award points based on education levels, work experience and English proficiency, as well as family ties. Automatic family unifications would remain but would be limited to spouses and children under 21. The adult children and siblings of U.S. residents would probably need other credentials, such as skills and education, to qualify for an immigrant visa. A number of unskilled parents would be allowed in, but that flow would be capped.
If it comes in depends on the cap. I have a feeling that will not happen or the cap will be large.
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Old May 17th 2007, 8:28 pm
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Interesting there is no plan to spend any money recruiting in BCIS. BCIS would need to treble in size (or more) to deal with this. Won't it end up being a total fiasco? What am I missing?
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Originally Posted by franc11s
Interesting there is no plan to spend any money recruiting in BCIS. BCIS would need to treble in size (or more) to deal with this. Won't it end up being a total fiasco? What am I missing?
They'll just shift the money from the Border Patrol since no one need sneak in any longer.
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Old May 17th 2007, 8:35 pm
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Originally Posted by ironporer
I recall reading somewhere that there are more illegal Canadians and Irish (combined) than all non- Mexican hispanics. A hefty voting block for Mr. Chappiquiddick.
During my weekly dose of Irish News on PBS there have been a few features recently on the "plight" of Irish illegals in the US.
Quite frankly I am sick and tired of hearing them bleating on about being unable to return home, etc, etc and then having the gall to demand "equal rights".

They are here illegally ffs - surely that isn't too difficult a concept to grasp - that is why you won't get back in if you leave, so just shut the **** up or get yourself down to the airport quick smart.
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Old May 17th 2007, 8:57 pm
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does sound like a bit of a bandaid solution that won't have much practical impact for many....
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does sound like a bit of a bandaid solution
Don't you mean elastoplast ??
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Don't you mean elastoplast ??
probably
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Originally Posted by Bob
does sound like a bit of a bandaid solution that won't have much practical impact for many....

That is what our government is best at- bull shlt solutions that sound good to the masses, make no real change...other than ensuring continued profits for fat ass buisiness owners.

Myself, I have no problem with a 'amnesty' for those who have been in the US for more than 5 years, have no criminal record, have maintained employment etc....but first and foremost they MUST ensure there are no more coming in.

Contain first, then effect corrective action
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seems like a crazy new law, go home for 1 year and hand over 3 grand? the large corporations are to blame for hiring these people then turning their backs on them. the latin community has transformed north georgia, bringing their lively culture with them, very nice friendly hard working, family oriented peoples.
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Old May 18th 2007, 12:13 am
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Originally Posted by snowbunny
I guarantee you that the queue from people who've worked illegally in the US who can fork out $5K and wait, is going to be significantly full of people who did not come from Latin America.

You know how much people are willing to pay to get into the US.
hmmm, I'm not so sure A. I know a family here who could make that no sweat.

Did you know that the minimum wage in Oregon is $8/hr?
This couple make significantly more than that. It could be that 'they' have more money than we think.
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hmmm, I'm not so sure A. I know a family here who could make that no sweat.

Did you know that the minimum wage in Oregon is $8/hr?
This couple make significantly more than that. It could be that 'they' have more money than we think.
I know of some families who could make that yes. But I know of other families and workers here from Mexico who do not make even the federal minimum wage (against rules I know but when you break one, why not break them all?) and would struggle mightily to raise $5,000 while at the same time losing work for an indefinite period of time while they waited for the visa to come through.
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hmmm, I'm not so sure A. I know a family here who could make that no sweat.

Did you know that the minimum wage in Oregon is $8/hr?
This couple make significantly more than that. It could be that 'they' have more money than we think.

is that law there? my sister in law was on $3 per hour whilst working in a night club, thats terrible, but they do fo sure need a miminum wage in georgia.
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Old May 18th 2007, 12:43 am
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Originally Posted by snowbunny
I know of some families who could make that yes. But I know of other families and workers here from Mexico who do not make even the federal minimum wage (against rules I know but when you break one, why not break them all?) and would struggle mightily to raise $5,000 while at the same time losing work for an indefinite period of time while they waited for the visa to come through.
If that was the case, maybe.

But it isn't.
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