US citizen being denied travel to the US
Feb 5th 2012, 5:54 pm
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Feb 5th 2012, 6:39 pm
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Re: US citizen being denied travel to the US
Again, he's not really trapped, since he could fly to a neighbouring country and enter the US overland, or take The Queen Mary to the US or maybe a freighter. I think he was abroad for several months, so it is possible he just coincidentally was promoted to the No-Fly List while abroad.
Feb 5th 2012, 7:31 pm
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Re: US citizen being denied travel to the US
Not sure if anybody noticed but his elder daughter is pretty hot.
Feb 5th 2012, 7:36 pm
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Re: US citizen being denied travel to the US
Interesting, there are no direct flights it would appear:
Airlines Destinations
Afriqiyah Airways Benghazi, Istanbul-Atatürk, Cairo, Tunis
Air Malta Malta [12]
Alitalia Rome-Fiumicino
Austrian Airlines Vienna [resumes 25 March 2012]
BMI London-Heathrow [resumes 25 March 2012]
British Airways London-Heathrow [resumes 1 May 2012][13]
EgyptAir Cairo
Emirates Dubai [resumes 26 March 2012]
Etihad Airways Abu Dhabi1
Jat Airways Belgrade [resumes 26 March 2012]
KLM Amsterdam [resumes 25 March 2012][14]
Libyan Airlines Amman, Benghazi, Cairo, Malta, Tunis
Lufthansa Frankfurt
Qatar Airways Doha
Royal Air Maroc Casablanca
Royal Jordanian Amman-Queen Alia
Tunisair Tunis
Turkish Airlines Istanbul-Atatürk
Or American carriers?
Airlines Destinations
Afriqiyah Airways Benghazi, Istanbul-Atatürk, Cairo, Tunis
Air Malta Malta [12]
Alitalia Rome-Fiumicino
Austrian Airlines Vienna [resumes 25 March 2012]
BMI London-Heathrow [resumes 25 March 2012]
British Airways London-Heathrow [resumes 1 May 2012][13]
EgyptAir Cairo
Emirates Dubai [resumes 26 March 2012]
Etihad Airways Abu Dhabi1
Jat Airways Belgrade [resumes 26 March 2012]
KLM Amsterdam [resumes 25 March 2012][14]
Libyan Airlines Amman, Benghazi, Cairo, Malta, Tunis
Lufthansa Frankfurt
Qatar Airways Doha
Royal Air Maroc Casablanca
Royal Jordanian Amman-Queen Alia
Tunisair Tunis
Turkish Airlines Istanbul-Atatürk
Or American carriers?
Feb 5th 2012, 7:38 pm
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Re: US citizen being denied travel to the US
Again, he's not really trapped, since he could fly to a neighbouring country and enter the US overland, or take The Queen Mary to the US or maybe a freighter. I think he was abroad for several months, so it is possible he just coincidentally was promoted to the No-Fly List while abroad.
Feb 6th 2012, 1:25 am
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Re: US citizen being denied travel to the US
I looked for an update, there were none, and that story has lots of iffs and buts.
The Mexicans obviously did not want him either, must have been on their radar.
All the UK stories are completely the opposite. Perhaps they should head there?
The Mexicans obviously did not want him either, must have been on their radar.
All the UK stories are completely the opposite. Perhaps they should head there?
Feb 6th 2012, 1:12 pm
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Re: US citizen being denied travel to the US
That didn't work for Raymond Earl Knaeble IV, apparently. He had boarded a flight to Mexico from Colombia in the hope of crossing the border into the US, but was denied entry into Mexico and sent back to Colombia.
Feb 6th 2012, 1:52 pm
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Re: US citizen being denied travel to the US
Here's one such story involving a UK citizen trying to fly from Canada to the UK:
http://www.economist.com/blogs/gulli...2/no-fly_lists
Feb 6th 2012, 10:38 pm
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Re: US citizen being denied travel to the US
The US government is preventing a citizen from returning home. It is the US government who is doing this, not the airline.
There is NO security issue here. If they believe the guy will do damage to the aircrew or aircraft, then please do ensure he and his luggage are searched very thoroughly and an air marshal travels on the same flight.
If he's done something wrong, please arrest him when he gets home and charge him with that crime. If you have some evidence but not enough, please do go to a judge and obtain a warrant to gather more.
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. --BF
There is NO security issue here. If they believe the guy will do damage to the aircrew or aircraft, then please do ensure he and his luggage are searched very thoroughly and an air marshal travels on the same flight.
If he's done something wrong, please arrest him when he gets home and charge him with that crime. If you have some evidence but not enough, please do go to a judge and obtain a warrant to gather more.
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. --BF
Feb 15th 2012, 12:28 am
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Re: US citizen being denied travel to the US
He arrived back home in Portland today
Feb 15th 2012, 12:58 am
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Re: US citizen being denied travel to the US
http://www.katu.com/news/local/Tigar...139331953.html
And they still took his cell phone and camera off him when he arrived.
And they still took his cell phone and camera off him when he arrived.
Feb 15th 2012, 3:04 am
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Re: US citizen being denied travel to the US
The US government is preventing a citizen from returning home. It is the US government who is doing this, not the airline.
There is NO security issue here. If they believe the guy will do damage to the aircrew or aircraft, then please do ensure he and his luggage are searched very thoroughly and an air marshal travels on the same flight.
If he's done something wrong, please arrest him when he gets home and charge him with that crime. If you have some evidence but not enough, please do go to a judge and obtain a warrant to gather more.
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. --BF
There is NO security issue here. If they believe the guy will do damage to the aircrew or aircraft, then please do ensure he and his luggage are searched very thoroughly and an air marshal travels on the same flight.
If he's done something wrong, please arrest him when he gets home and charge him with that crime. If you have some evidence but not enough, please do go to a judge and obtain a warrant to gather more.
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. --BF