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How can you be temporarily banned for life.

Enquiring minds would like to know.

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He can join again in the next life.

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I just wanted to add that there are many many threads on here - where the general population of posters is specifically telling the new enquirer to 'go see a lawyer' sometimes over and over in the same thread.

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My perception is the opposite - that any such posts are few and far between and are generally countered by other posters and/or moderators. This is a forum for discussion rather than professional assistance and almost all requests that get into the realm of seeking professional assistance receive the advice to "find an attorney."

If you have specific concerns about specific posts, then the proper response is usually to respond with your concerns on the thread. If it's flagrant, then report it to moderators or site administrators. That said, there is a distinction between "discussion of law" and "practice of law".

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He is still carried on the membership rolls. However, there is a ban in place which is set to expire "never." This is pure observation and I offer no explanation -- it is none of my business.

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Its OK His IMDb membership is safe

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I'm not all that sure your "perception" is all that different than Susan's. She did note that there are "some" posts and that the line is "blurry."

Also, I would suggest that it is the human condition to better remember negative experiences that ordinary experiences. An example of this is that immigration "horror stories" are more likely to be posted in these forums than the overwhelming majority of cases which experience no problems whatsoever.

I do not perceive that Susan tarred the majority of posters with the same brush. Nowhere close IMHO. However, there are instances where there will be posts that express opinions on issues that will have experienced attorneys scratching their heads.

On the "accusation" front, it should be noted that it is prosecutors who do that. Simply noting that a prosecutor may take a dim view of actions is not the same as an accusation. [BTW, FWIW, the then incoming president of AILA was indicted for fraud on the Government for a common practice. Fortunately, the former INS provided affidavits that although the practice was a bone of contention as to its legality, it was not fraud.]

I would also note that no one is obligated to post here. If an attorney chooses to respond to a "whopper," I think the best practice would be to give their position without reference to the "whopper." Let the questioner decide -- it is their life.

Final point -- on apparent "cut and paste:" internet lists are like wire coat hangers -- they are the product of asexual reproduction. [This is both a metaphor and a simile. Neat trick, eh? :D] This propagation does not add or detract from the validity of the list -- that is a matter of independent inquiry.

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So the OP haughtily came in here, tarred with a broad brush, attempted to cajole the mods into quashing people's opinions - thanks, Sue, for smacking that down - and then left without given specific examples to illustrate her point.

I read her warning that if we didn't all play nice and act deferentially - perhaps reverentially? - then the lawyers wouldn't post here any more.
Gasp! How on earth would we manage?

It seems to be me that the majority of posts from our legal friends are generally of the nature: "This is complex issue. Get a consultation with an immigration attorney". Which is the advice a lot of us laypeople give anyway.

Kudos, too, for fatbrit. :thumbup:

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Don't be too sure: I have full access to the database which controls access to IMDb. Of course, it's an instantly terminateable offense for me to futz with user data, but I could still do it in theory...

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Oh, and in case anyone missed if, the OP is also the one who posted the pinned "4 simple rules..." thread that some people deemed to be tantamount to warning against UPL, plus self-advertising, and which also generated a lot of controversy and deleted posts...

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The OP has now closed her account ...
Mods please close this ridiculous thread

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I got in trouble for knocking heads with her before but I'll tell you what; I'd say my initial reaction was spot on. Apart from the condescension and belittling of we. the little people, did you see the way she tried to manipulate and cajole the mods? It was actually quite sophomoric. The admin's response was sublime.

I think J Craig Fong is genuinely helpful to folks here, is self-effacing and has a good sense of humor. Even Stewey I Folinsky gives an occasional chuckle.

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FWIW, people might want to look at an interesting thread.

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I remember the poster Folinskyinla listed there .,..

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Doesn't seem any point in going around in circles and resurrecting old issues. :blink:

Move on peeps. Life is too short.

Thanks

Thread closed.

Sue