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PetrifiedExPat Sep 6th 2023 1:42 am

UK voting
 
Another year, another request to vote from abroad. Does anyone else vote in UK elections whilst living in the US?

I am thinking of letting it lapse, as well as my UK passport. For my family I want to clear that I am US domicile (i'm a dual citizen). After my Mum passes, I may renounce British citizenship for the above reasoned domicile consideration.

durham_lad Sep 6th 2023 2:44 am

Re: UK voting
 
I stopped voting as soon as we were resident in the USA. I didn't let anything "lapse", just stopped voting, it wasn't worth the effort to figure out how to unregister to vote.

Pulaski Sep 6th 2023 2:49 am

Re: UK voting
 
I voted until I had been out of the UK too long to vote, at least in elections when my ballot arrived in time for me to return it.

Did the government get around to abolishing the time limit? I know it has been discussed for a number of years.

durham_lad Sep 6th 2023 2:51 am

Re: UK voting
 

Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 13214002)
Did the government get around to abolishing the time limit? I know it has been discussed for a number of years.

It used to be 15 years.

https://www.gov.uk/voting-when-abroad

you can register as an overseas voter if you:
  • are a British or eligible Irish citizen
  • were registered to vote in the UK within the last 15 years (or in some cases, if you were too young to have registered when you left the UK)


PetrifiedExPat Sep 6th 2023 2:56 am

Re: UK voting
 
I believe time limit was abolished, but still not law (dont quote me on that).

My yearly form to the district council arrived to re-register. I think I will let is lapse this time.

And yes, Pulaski, things rarely arrived on time anyway.

Pulaski Sep 6th 2023 6:16 am

Re: UK voting
 

Originally Posted by durham_lad (Post 13214003)
It used to be 15 years. ....

And the Brexit vote was 14½ years after I left the UK. :)

Pollyana Sep 6th 2023 6:36 am

Re: UK voting
 

Originally Posted by PetrifiedExPat (Post 13214004)
I believe time limit was abolished, but still not law (dont quote me on that).

My yearly form to the district council arrived to re-register. I think I will let is lapse this time.

And yes, Pulaski, things rarely arrived on time anyway.

It certainly hadn't been passed as law as recently as March, when I moved back home.

calman014 Sep 6th 2023 6:45 am

Re: UK voting
 
Time limit still applies. Has been discussed but has not got any further.
Thanks to Brexit I can't vote for anything as an EU resident apart than for the local water board apparently!

excpomea Sep 7th 2023 2:24 am

Re: UK voting
 

Originally Posted by calman014 (Post 13214048)
Time limit still applies. Has been discussed but has not got any further.
Thanks to Brexit I can't vote for anything as an EU resident apart than for the local water board apparently!


For the hell of it I thought I would register. Left in 2000.

Yep, denied as per the 15 year time limit. If it ever changes I'll reapply.

Andrews Mum Sep 7th 2023 9:23 am

Re: UK voting
 
Yes we still register to vote but we only moved to the US 6 years ago and were already retired and receiving our UK state pensions. As they, and our pensions from our UK jobs, are our only source of income we think it is in our best interests to have an input. We do everything by email and have found it works fine for us.

BritInParis Sep 7th 2023 9:06 pm

Re: UK voting
 
The law has been changed but secondary legislation is required to actually implement the change.


It is expected this will be brought forward in 2023 with newly eligible overseas voters eligible to vote in 2024.

S Folinsky Sep 8th 2023 6:26 am

Re: UK voting
 

Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 13214037)
And the Brexit vote was 14½ years after I left the UK. :)

Dual national brother-in-law, says that if there is a vote for Scotland to leave the UK, he wii reestablish Scottish residence with the idea of having EU nationality back in due course.

RICH Sep 8th 2023 1:10 pm

Re: UK voting
 

Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 13214037)
And the Brexit vote was 14½ years after I left the UK. :)

I also emigrated in 2004 and was able to register in my old Ealing district to vote in the Brexit referendum. Not sure if the mail in thing got there on time.
The next election I tried for was beyond 15 years. I believe there was some option to do proxy vote , but not sure and I did not follow up.

stephend- Jan 7th 2024 9:58 am

Re: UK voting
 
I think this is the secondary legislation that was required to allow expats a "vote for life":

https://statutoryinstruments.parliam...eline/PuUE0ztK

It looks like it has all been approved, but the legislation was FAR too long and complicated for my pea-brain to check all the details. I did, however notice this:


PART 1 Introduction
Citation, commencement, extent, transitional provisions and savings
1.—(1) These Regulations may be cited as the Representation of the People (Overseas Electors etc.) (Amendment) Regulations 2023.
(2) Subject to paragraphs (3) to (5), these Regulations come into force on 16th January 2024
So my understanding is that from 16th January 2024 the 15 year limit will be abolished (having been here for 14½ years that's pretty timely for me).

Three cheers to the late Harry Shindler OBE!!

stephend- Feb 12th 2024 1:15 am

Re: UK voting
 
Confirmed :regular_smile:
https://www.gov.uk/voting-when-abroad

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...859d14c6c9.png

Scott33 Feb 13th 2024 4:57 am

Re: UK voting
 
I recently got word that I was (back) on the UK electoral register. Per the old legislation, I was removed about 8-ish years ago, and missed Brexit by about 6 months. This is the correspondence I received.



https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...205e47fba4.png



mikelincs Feb 13th 2024 5:43 am

Re: UK voting
 
Please note, you will be assigned to a constituency where the government feels your vote will be be to it's advantage and not to the one you were in before leaving. It all smacks of desperation from the government.

Scott33 Feb 13th 2024 6:40 am

Re: UK voting
 

Originally Posted by mikelincs (Post 13240308)
Please note, you will be assigned to a constituency where the government feels your vote will be be to it's advantage and not to the one you were in before leaving. It all smacks of desperation from the government.

Any evidence / links to back this up?

tht Feb 13th 2024 7:13 am

Re: UK voting
 

Originally Posted by mikelincs (Post 13240308)
Please note, you will be assigned to a constituency where the government feels your vote will be be to it's advantage and not to the one you were in before leaving. It all smacks of desperation from the government.

would they not have to know how you intend to vote to decide where it will help them / where to dump it where it won’t count….

BritInParis Feb 13th 2024 7:29 am

Re: UK voting
 

Originally Posted by Scott33 (Post 13240321)
Any evidence / links to back this up?

None will be forthcoming because it’s nonsense. You will vote in the constituency where you were last registered or resident, the same as it is now. The only difference is that the 15 year old time limit has been abolished.

stephend- Feb 14th 2024 12:36 am

Re: UK voting
 

Originally Posted by BritInParis (Post 13240333)
None will be forthcoming because it’s nonsense. You will vote in the constituency where you were last registered or resident, the same as it is now. The only difference is that the 15 year old time limit has been abolished.

Exactly. They ask you where you were last registered to vote in the UK and assign the same constituency.

Some folk just like to make noise, it seems.

Updatedusername Feb 16th 2024 9:19 am

Re: UK voting
 
As per the advice already given, it's a simple matter of identifying your last constituency, or the current equivalent if the boundary has changed, and requesting the registrar to add you to the electoral roll.

I managed to get my vote back after only a few days of waiting.

Andy

Jerseygirl Feb 16th 2024 9:33 am

Re: UK voting
 
We do not allow more than one username. Therefore would you like the 2 accounts to be merged, if so which username do you prefer? Or should I arrange to have one of the accounts closed?

Updatedusername Feb 16th 2024 10:39 am

Re: UK voting
 
Thanks Jerseygirl,

Please merge the two accounts.
I'd prefer to use updatedusername as it's easier to remember.

Cheers,
Andy

Jerseygirl Feb 16th 2024 11:44 am

Re: UK voting
 

Originally Posted by Updatedusername (Post 13241004)
Thanks Jerseygirl,

Please merge the two accounts.
I'd prefer to use updatedusername as it's easier to remember.

Cheers,
Andy

Will do. It may take a few days. Welcome back.

Bob Feb 18th 2024 7:05 am

Re: UK voting
 
User accounts have been merged.

vespucci Jun 15th 2024 9:09 am

Re: UK voting
 
A General Election has been called for 4 July 2024. Register to vote by 11:59pm on 18 June 2024.

https://www.gov.uk/voting-when-abroad




Scott33 Jun 15th 2024 1:46 pm

Re: UK voting
 
Just a point to note - registering to vote is different from the application to vote in the coming election. I had been registered to vote in the UK for quite some time (since the 15 year ban was lifted) and was wondering why I hadn't received anything through the mail for the general election. As it turns out, there is a separate application which is election-specific and requires uploading a digital signature to your former council for validation and approval. Only after that has been received will you get something mailed out to your US address.

And yeah, there is only another couple of days for everything to be approved. :confused_smile:

dave2702 Jun 28th 2024 5:34 am

Re: UK voting
 
Did anyone get their voting forms ? I managed to do all the registration timely but no sign of the form :( I guess if it doesn't arrive today I'm not going to be able to get it back even if I spend $70 on priority mail

Scott33 Jun 28th 2024 7:31 am

Re: UK voting
 
Yes.

Please refer to my post above yours. They don't send ballot forms out merely because we are registered to vote. Unfortunately though, the deadline has passed for the general election postal vote

I sent my vote in a few days ago, and there was no charge to mail it back.

postbox134 Jun 29th 2024 7:47 am

Re: UK voting
 
I don't remember having to do that in 2019 - but maybe I am mis-remembering. Ah well, my old seat is so safe it doesn't really matter...

tom169 Jun 29th 2024 10:06 am

Re: UK voting
 

Originally Posted by Scott33 (Post 13260534)
Yes.

Please refer to my post above yours. They don't send ballot forms out merely because we are registered to vote. Unfortunately though, the deadline has passed for the general election postal vote

I sent my vote in a few days ago, and there was no charge to mail it back.

​​​​​​⠀‹My father received my postal/proxy vote on 6/19 (in the UK) and subsequently voted on my behalf.

mikelincs Jun 29th 2024 9:08 pm

Re: UK voting
 
Apparently there are some 13 councils who haven't got the postal ballots out fully in time, excuses were that they just didn't have enough ballot papers printed, this for a summer election during school holidays, did they not thonk there might have been a lot needed?

Finknottle Jun 29th 2024 9:36 pm

Re: UK voting
 

Originally Posted by Scott33 (Post 13260534)
Yes.

Please refer to my post above yours. They don't send ballot forms out merely because we are registered to vote. Unfortunately though, the deadline has passed for the general election postal vote

They used to. Every year prior to this we just re-registered.

Earlier this year we had to resubmit a scan of our signature (first time ever), then re-register, complete with another scan of our signature, and then apply separately for a postal vote.

Keeps somebody in a job I suppose.


mikelincs Jun 30th 2024 12:00 am

Re: UK voting
 

Originally Posted by Finknottle (Post 13260794)
They used to. Every year prior to this we just re-registered.

Earlier this year we had to resubmit a scan of our signature (first time ever), then re-register, complete with another scan of our signature, and then apply separately for a postal vote.

Keeps somebody in a job I suppose.

I think what Scott meant is they don't send out postal ballot forms, yes they send you what used to be an actual card, but is still called a poll card despite it being on an A4 paper because of all the listing of what is a valid ID.

PetrifiedExPat Jul 3rd 2024 1:22 am

Re: UK voting
 
I gave up my postal voting registration. The only postal vote I ever received on time was for Brexit... and that didnt end the way I wanted..

EdgeAA Jul 3rd 2024 1:32 am

Re: UK voting
 
I got mine last week on Monday but I was on vacation all that week, so I probably would have had time to do it if I could have posted it back out that same day. Since it was free postage I did mail it out this Monday but I doubt it'll get back in time for Thursday. I doubt it'll matter too much, the seat I'm voting in only has a small Conservative majority so I'm certain it'll be solid Labour this time around.


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