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Old Mar 12th 2012, 1:34 pm
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With the British Prime Minister Cameron due to visit the US very shortly, what state is the special relationship in, and does it even matter today?

An article here might help lubricate the thread to start with.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17272610

I suspect at the individual level it means very little, might not even feel 'special' in a good way...

What do you think?
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Old Mar 12th 2012, 3:26 pm
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Originally Posted by HarryTheSpider View Post
With the British Prime Minister Cameron due to visit the US very shortly, what state is the special relationship in, and does it even matter today?

An article here might help lubricate the thread to start with.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17272610

I suspect at the individual level it means very little, might not even feel 'special' in a good way...

What do you think?
Special, as in needs ...
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Old Mar 12th 2012, 3:33 pm
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IMO, the so-called "special" relationship is a little less special these days. Somehow I can't see Obama & Cameron seeing eye-to-eye on a number of fronts. I think the Republican party's insane demonization of "socialized" NHS-style healthcare has not helped. Plus the EU economic meltdown scares Americans in general, though it's not as if America isn't melting down itself Returning to America after 20 years away, I sense something of a widening rift, unfortunately . . . . Americans love the accents, & love the Royals, but their insularity means they distrust more things foreign these days than I recall from the 90's when I lived here last.

I'm old enough to remember Thatcher & Reagan as best mates, haha! Somehow I don't see Barack & David this way. However, the US Embassy in London has this on their website:
http://london.usembassy.gov/gb160.html

THE WHITE HOUSE - Office of the Press Secretary

President Obama and the First Lady will welcome Prime Minister David Cameron of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and his wife, Samantha Cameron, to the White House for an Official Visit with a State Dinner on March 13-14, 2012. The visit will highlight the fundamental importance of the U.S.-UK special relationship and the depth of the friendship between the American people and the people of the United Kingdom, as well as the strong personal bond that has developed between the two leaders and their families.
Hmmmm, really? . . . .

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Old Mar 12th 2012, 3:39 pm
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Plus don't the Queen & Michelle Obama have a little hug when they meet up? That's Special!

Can't see the Queen wanting to hug Callisto Gringrich or any of those other republican barbie dolls, though...
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I don't think it's been too special, since Hugh Grant caught Billy Bob Thornton feeling up Martine McCutcheon.
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Old Mar 12th 2012, 4:36 pm
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What special relationship? That went out when Blair left office.

The only ones special to the Obamas are the Obamas

Originally Posted by HarryTheSpider View Post
With the British Prime Minister Cameron due to visit the US very shortly, what state is the special relationship in, and does it even matter today?

An article here might help lubricate the thread to start with.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17272610

I suspect at the individual level it means very little, might not even feel 'special' in a good way...

What do you think?
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Churchill had a particular world view which is not relevant today.
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I think the only special thing about it is that some people on one side of it have the delusion it is in some way special.
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About as special as my arse.
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About as special as my arse.
Awww thats special?

I don't think it all applies anymore. Maybe in WW2 but the US and UK only want a special relationship when and if it suits now days.
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Churchill had a particular world view which is not relevant today.
Why is Churchills world view any less relevant today?
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Why is Churchills world view any less relevant today?
Good question. I mean, the world hasn't changed much in the last 47 years, has it?
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Good question. I mean, the world hasn't changed much in the last 47 years, has it?
It became a little more boring in mid-1979; or so I've been told
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It became a little more boring in mid-1979; or so I've been told
... and grown exponentially more boring, each year since.
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... and grown exponentially more boring, each year since.


At least at the end of it all I can look back and say "a lot of people were mildly annoyed"
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