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Scot_in_NYC May 11th 2009 7:03 am

UK tax while in US
 
Hi guys,

I heard from a colleague that if you work in the US you have to continue to pay UK national insurance? Does anyone know if this is the case?

Thanks for your help

meauxna May 11th 2009 7:16 am

Re: UK tax while in US
 

Originally Posted by Scot_in_NYC (Post 7562233)
Hi guys,

I heard from a colleague that if you work in the US you have to continue to pay UK national insurance? Does anyone know if this is the case?

Thanks for your help

If you do, it's probably dependent on a lot of details not included in your post.

Scot_in_NYC May 11th 2009 7:18 am

Re: UK tax while in US
 
I was told it was a legal requirement if you want to be eligible for a state penion when you retire. I should add I am some 30-years minimum away from retiring.

meauxna May 11th 2009 7:31 am

Re: UK tax while in US
 

Originally Posted by Scot_in_NYC (Post 7562287)
I was told it was a legal requirement if you want to be eligible for a state penion when you retire. I should add I am some 30-years minimum away from retiring.

I work in the US. I don't pay NI tax.

Englishtart May 11th 2009 7:38 am

Re: UK tax while in US
 

Originally Posted by Scot_in_NYC (Post 7562287)
I was told it was a legal requirement if you want to be eligible for a state penion when you retire. I should add I am some 30-years minimum away from retiring.

It's not a legal requirement, but having said that, if you are going to be claiming a UK pension after you retire, it really is a good idea to keep up the payments, it's a lot easier to pay it weekly/monthly, rather than pay a lump sum later on to keep it topped up.

Of course if you are going to move permanently to the US, you can stop paying it if you think you will be eligible for a US pension, although (and someone please correct me if I am wrong) I think I have read on here that you can claim both?

Jerseygirl May 11th 2009 8:15 am

Re: UK tax while in US
 

Originally Posted by meauxna (Post 7562316)
I work in the US. I don't pay NI tax.

Stop it. :lol:

meauxna May 11th 2009 8:46 am

Re: UK tax while in US
 

Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 7562416)
Stop it. :lol:

Wot?! I should start? <g>

Bob May 11th 2009 9:51 am

Re: UK tax while in US
 

Originally Posted by Englishtart (Post 7562336)
...I think I have read on here that you can claim both?

You can, if you've contributed enough in both countries....other wise credit paid in the US could be used to top up UK contributions if needed.

kath58 May 11th 2009 10:18 am

Re: UK tax while in US
 
I work in the USA. I pay Tax. Plus National Insurance.

Mummy in the foothills May 11th 2009 12:17 pm

Re: UK tax while in US
 

Originally Posted by Bob (Post 7562606)
You can, if you've contributed enough in both countries....other wise credit paid in the US could be used to top up UK contributions if needed.

I had read something about the US/UK agreement a while back.
To tell the truth I wish I'd kept up payments in the UK I'm pretty sure that's where we'll be when we retire. You can only back pay two years at a time can't you?

kath58 May 11th 2009 1:07 pm

Re: UK tax while in US
 
Go to to direct.gov on the uk msn home pge it will tell you everything you need to know.

dbj1000 May 11th 2009 2:04 pm

Re: UK tax while in US
 

Originally Posted by kath58 (Post 7562670)
I work in the USA. I pay Tax. Plus National Insurance.

I work in the USA. I pay Tax. I don't pay National Insurance.

Is this a game? Do I win a prize?

Ozzidoc May 11th 2009 4:59 pm

Re: UK tax while in US
 

Originally Posted by Mummy in the foothills (Post 7562921)
I had read something about the US/UK agreement a while back.
To tell the truth I wish I'd kept up payments in the UK I'm pretty sure that's where we'll be when we retire. You can only back pay two years at a time can't you?

I'm pretty sure that you have seven or eight years to make up a (specific) lost tax year.

lj2 May 12th 2009 4:38 am

Re: UK tax while in US
 

Originally Posted by kath58 (Post 7562670)
I work in the USA. I pay Tax. Plus National Insurance.

SNAP!

I think I win?

There was a thread about this recently, do a search. I had posted in it. It basically depends on the contract structure whether you have to pay NI or US SS.

If you have to pay NI you dont have to pay US SS. If you have to pay US SS you dony have to pay UK NI. If you pay US SS you MAY pay UK class 2 NI by choice to keep up entitlement to retirement benefits etc.

lj2 May 12th 2009 5:44 am

Re: UK tax while in US
 

Originally Posted by kath58 (Post 7563035)
Go to to direct.gov on the uk msn home pge it will tell you everything you need to know.

It may outline everything, but to be clear it is very dependent on the wording of an individual employment agreement.


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