UK state pension and USA social security
Feb 19th 2019, 11:08 pm
#1576
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Re: UK state pension and USA social security
Thanks that is what I thought but wanted to check. For the other question still curous
Feb 20th 2019, 1:29 pm
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Re: UK state pension and USA social security
I thought it used to be more like seven or eight years, and is now ten.
Feb 20th 2019, 1:36 pm
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Re: UK state pension and USA social security
https://www.gov.uk/new-state-pension/how-its-calculated
You’ll usually need at least 10 qualifying years on your National Insurance record to get any State Pension.
You’ll need 35 qualifying years to get the full new State Pension.
You’ll need 35 qualifying years to get the full new State Pension.
Feb 20th 2019, 1:41 pm
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Re: UK state pension and USA social security
Feb 20th 2019, 3:49 pm
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Re: UK state pension and USA social security
Thanks for the qualifier -- the OP's query wasn't clear as to just what he meant -- being eligible for the pension in general, or being eligible to make voluntary contributions.
Feb 20th 2019, 4:15 pm
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Feb 20th 2019, 4:37 pm
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Re: UK state pension and USA social security
https://www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-05-10199.pdf
Feb 20th 2019, 4:38 pm
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Feb 20th 2019, 4:43 pm
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Re: UK state pension and USA social security
I have no idea. I recall another post on here where someone was told by the pensions helpline that they couldn't make voluntary contributions because they had not paid 3 years before leaving. A quick search failed to find it.
As will all advice on here. Trust but verify.
As will all advice on here. Trust but verify.
Feb 20th 2019, 5:41 pm
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Re: UK state pension and USA social security
I have no idea. I recall another post on here where someone was told by the pensions helpline that they couldn't make voluntary contributions because they had not paid 3 years before leaving. A quick search failed to find it.
As will all advice on here. Trust but verify.
As will all advice on here. Trust but verify.
You can pay Class 2 (or 3) NICs if you are employed or self-employed abroad and if you satisfy the following conditions:
• you have lived in the UK for a continuous 3-year period at any time before the period for which NICs are to be paid - (if you have lived or worked in another EEA country or in Turkey, time spent there may help you to meet this condition)
• before going abroad you paid a set amount in NICs for 3 years or more (this will be checked when you ask to pay Class 2/3 NICs)
• immediately before going abroad you were ordinarily an employed or self-employed earner in the UK
• you have lived in the UK for a continuous 3-year period at any time before the period for which NICs are to be paid - (if you have lived or worked in another EEA country or in Turkey, time spent there may help you to meet this condition)
• before going abroad you paid a set amount in NICs for 3 years or more (this will be checked when you ask to pay Class 2/3 NICs)
• immediately before going abroad you were ordinarily an employed or self-employed earner in the UK
Feb 20th 2019, 10:44 pm
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Re: UK state pension and USA social security
Pretty sure this is incorrect. For example, let's say you qualify for US SS through 20 years of contributions, but have only 8 years UK, you can use your US record to qualify for UK state pension. There is no "transfer" per se; your UK state pension will still be based on 8/35ths of the full amount, but at least you'll qualify. Check out page 7 of the totalization agreement:
https://www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-05-10199.pdf
https://www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-05-10199.pdf
Mind you I always thought that what that publication outlines was the way it was done until we tried to get Mrs L's pension.
Last edited by lansbury; Feb 20th 2019 at 10:46 pm.
Feb 20th 2019, 10:48 pm
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Re: UK state pension and USA social security
Well all I can say is the opinion of not being able to use the credits if you qualify for one pension to qualify for the other is something I've been told several times on BE. It is also consistent with Mrs L's experience in trying to use her SS credits for the UK State pension. She eventually got a UK State pension based on 60% of mine.
Mind you I always thought that what that publication outlines was the way it was done until we tried to get Mrs L's pension.
Mind you I always thought that what that publication outlines was the way it was done until we tried to get Mrs L's pension.
"If you meet all the basic requirements under one country’s system, you will get a regular benefit from that country."
Your wife met the basic requirements by virtue of being your wife (no longer the case for newer retirees, I note...).
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Feb 20th 2019, 11:30 pm
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Re: UK state pension and USA social security
Just wanted to clarify that a spouse cannot get any benefit of a UK state pension based solely on their partners' UK state pension.
Is it correct that was eradicated?
Is it correct that was eradicated?
Feb 20th 2019, 11:37 pm
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Re: UK state pension and USA social security