UK Self Assessment Returns
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UK Self Assessment Returns
I'm in a bind.
I requested an online ID for doing the UK tax return. This came eventually but you have to use it within 28 days to activate. I received it on day 29!
I have since had a notice of no filing. Which I can appeal withing 30 days of the date of the notice. You guessed it. They'd practically elapsed and I have no way of getting a written appeal in on time.
That aside is online filing my only route or do people use other methods.
I have zero UK income so it's all a load of effort for nothing at the end of the day so makes it doubly annoying.
I requested an online ID for doing the UK tax return. This came eventually but you have to use it within 28 days to activate. I received it on day 29!
I have since had a notice of no filing. Which I can appeal withing 30 days of the date of the notice. You guessed it. They'd practically elapsed and I have no way of getting a written appeal in on time.
That aside is online filing my only route or do people use other methods.
I have zero UK income so it's all a load of effort for nothing at the end of the day so makes it doubly annoying.
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Re: UK Self Assessment Returns
I'm in a bind.
I requested an online ID for doing the UK tax return. This came eventually but you have to use it within 28 days to activate. I received it on day 29!
I have since had a notice of no filing. Which I can appeal withing 30 days of the date of the notice. You guessed it. They'd practically elapsed and I have no way of getting a written appeal in on time.
That aside is online filing my only route or do people use other methods.
I have zero UK income so it's all a load of effort for nothing at the end of the day so makes it doubly annoying.
I requested an online ID for doing the UK tax return. This came eventually but you have to use it within 28 days to activate. I received it on day 29!
I have since had a notice of no filing. Which I can appeal withing 30 days of the date of the notice. You guessed it. They'd practically elapsed and I have no way of getting a written appeal in on time.
That aside is online filing my only route or do people use other methods.
I have zero UK income so it's all a load of effort for nothing at the end of the day so makes it doubly annoying.
I'm just not clear on why you're filing a UK return at all if you have no UK income, I guess...
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Re: UK Self Assessment Returns
Because 'The Man' says I must!
I arrived here Nov 07 and I've sent in a Form R85 and did a what I thought would be a final return for tax year 07/08 (which had nothing because I'd basically stopped working in the UK)
I can do without a £100 fine plus any other extras they try to throw in.
I arrived here Nov 07 and I've sent in a Form R85 and did a what I thought would be a final return for tax year 07/08 (which had nothing because I'd basically stopped working in the UK)
I can do without a £100 fine plus any other extras they try to throw in.
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Re: UK Self Assessment Returns
Because 'The Man' says I must!
I arrived here Nov 07 and I've sent in a Form R85 and did a what I thought would be a final return for tax year 07/08 (which had nothing because I'd basically stopped working in the UK)
I can do without a £100 fine plus any other extras they try to throw in.
I arrived here Nov 07 and I've sent in a Form R85 and did a what I thought would be a final return for tax year 07/08 (which had nothing because I'd basically stopped working in the UK)
I can do without a £100 fine plus any other extras they try to throw in.
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Re: UK Self Assessment Returns
I agree with dbj1000 that you should be able to tell them to ***** off.
It's been a few years now, but I found that calling my tax office resulted in getting through to a competent person who could sort things out straight away - in contrast to the experience in contacting almost any other organisation with a call centre. This might no longer be the case.
If you get no joy with your tax office, I'd suggest contacting HMRC residency who have been extremely helpful whenever I've had expat tax questions:
http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/cnr/email.htm
It's been a few years now, but I found that calling my tax office resulted in getting through to a competent person who could sort things out straight away - in contrast to the experience in contacting almost any other organisation with a call centre. This might no longer be the case.
If you get no joy with your tax office, I'd suggest contacting HMRC residency who have been extremely helpful whenever I've had expat tax questions:
http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/cnr/email.htm
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Re: UK Self Assessment Returns
I agree with dbj1000 that you should be able to tell them to ***** off.
It's been a few years now, but I found that calling my tax office resulted in getting through to a competent person who could sort things out straight away - in contrast to the experience in contacting almost any other organisation with a call centre. This might no longer be the case.
If you get no joy with your tax office, I'd suggest contacting HMRC residency who have been extremely helpful whenever I've had expat tax questions:
http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/cnr/email.htm
It's been a few years now, but I found that calling my tax office resulted in getting through to a competent person who could sort things out straight away - in contrast to the experience in contacting almost any other organisation with a call centre. This might no longer be the case.
If you get no joy with your tax office, I'd suggest contacting HMRC residency who have been extremely helpful whenever I've had expat tax questions:
http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/cnr/email.htm
#7
Re: UK Self Assessment Returns
I had similar situation when I was living in Bermuda, I twice had to apply for the pin code as it had expired before it reached me.
You are also right, if the tax bods say you have to do a tax return then you have to. Income or no income, stupid isn't it. I don't think there is any way to do a paper return at this point for 2007/2008, but perhaps you could write and tell them the situation.
My husband sent his paper return in May last year, they sat on it for over seven months, then sent it him back said he was missing the residency status form and if he did not respond within 7 days he would be fined £100. His was a nil return as well. The letter seemed to do the trick.
You are also right, if the tax bods say you have to do a tax return then you have to. Income or no income, stupid isn't it. I don't think there is any way to do a paper return at this point for 2007/2008, but perhaps you could write and tell them the situation.
My husband sent his paper return in May last year, they sat on it for over seven months, then sent it him back said he was missing the residency status form and if he did not respond within 7 days he would be fined £100. His was a nil return as well. The letter seemed to do the trick.
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Re: UK Self Assessment Returns
you can download an 07/08 tax return from the HMRC website and mail it to the tax office and if there is no tax liability the £100 penalty will be cancelled if you do not complete a return they raise determinations and then can send the debt on to the country of your residence for collection
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Re: UK Self Assessment Returns
Thanks all. I think downloading the form and sending it is probably the best solution rather than going for the rigmarole of the PIN again.
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