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BritGuyTN Jul 21st 2005 11:42 pm

UK perspectve 2005
 
i'm over in the Uk for a few weeks on business right now and in the two years since i left society has changed

violece seems to be the norm, where i used to life in st albans, herts, now has armoured police vans patrolling on fri/sat nights nights \with surveilance cameras looking out for trouble, and duting the day the high street is full of scum looking for aggro.

i live in a 'transitional' neighbourhood in nashville which i am sure has much higher crime and more offences against the individual, but going back to my home town had been an eye-opener

i'm feeling very intolerant right now, after a friend of mine was shot dead in a motiveless killing recently in the us, another friend in the uk beaten up in a 'grown-up' happy slapping attack, separation from my wife, and now this second bomb attack by fundo muslims, i'm extremely pissed off

suffice to say, anyone on my flight my flight wearing a towel on their head carrying a ruck-sack may be liable to a chav-style 'happy-slapping'

sibsie Jul 21st 2005 11:52 pm

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So are you looking forward to coming back to the US?

I went back for my first trip in three years at Easter. The only difference I saw was that everyone was talking like they'd walked off the set of Easties and this was in nicey nice Cobham and Weybridge. :confused:

garfro Jul 21st 2005 11:54 pm

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Originally Posted by BritGuyTN
i'm over in the Uk for a few weeks on business right now and in the two years since i left society has changed

violece seems to be the norm, where i used to life in st albans, herts, now has armoured police vans patrolling on fri/sat nights nights \with surveilance cameras looking out for trouble, and duting the day the high street is full of scum looking for aggro.

i live in a 'transitional' neighbourhood in nashville which i am sure has much higher crime and more offences against the individual, but going back to my home town had been an eye-opener

i'm feeling very intolerant right now, after a friend of mine was shot dead in a motiveless killing recently in the us, another friend in the uk beaten up in a 'grown-up' happy slapping attack, separation from my wife, and now this second bomb attack by fundo muslims, i'm extremely pissed off

suffice to say, anyone on my flight my flight wearing a towel on their head carrying a ruck-sack may be liable to a chav-style 'happy-slapping'


I know what you mean.......im not easily rattled, i have lived in NY and hollywood and spent many a late night in large US cities,but....... when i was home last october i parked in the local high st (camberley,surrey) and thought i would get some cash from the ATM and have 1 beer, the roving gangs of little foul mouthed drunken yobos set off some kind of alert in me and told me to get back in my car,,,,so i did!! in my home town of all places.
that being said i drove around the block to a parallel street and went into a lovely pub that felt the same as i left it 20 years ago..Funny huh!!
I am working on moving to Northern ireland and most people think that Im crazy but having made several trips over to recce the place I can tell ya the people are lovely.....plus i have family there.
G

garfro Jul 21st 2005 11:56 pm

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Originally Posted by sibsie
So are you looking forward to coming back to the US?

I went back for my first trip in three years at Easter. The only difference I saw was that everyone was talking like they'd walked off the set of Easties and this was in nicey nice Cobham and Weybridge. :confused:



Not too far from camberley, my brother lives right near that Tescos at Brooklands

Wintersong Jul 22nd 2005 12:02 am

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Originally Posted by BritGuyTN
... another friend in the uk beaten up in a 'grown-up' happy slapping attack...


...suffice to say, anyone on my flight my flight wearing a towel on their head carrying a ruck-sack may be liable to a chav-style 'happy-slapping'...

I see.

AmeriBrit Jul 22nd 2005 12:08 am

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Originally Posted by BritGuyTN
suffice to say, anyone on my flight my flight wearing a towel on their head carrying a ruck-sack may be liable to a chav-style 'happy-slapping'

Jesus, how ignorant are you? You do realize that the people that you just so beautifully described are Sikh's and not Muslim, right? It's stupid tw*ts like you that cause more trouble than you prevent. Be part of the solution, not part of the problem!

garfro Jul 22nd 2005 12:13 am

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Originally Posted by BritGuyTN
i'm over in the Uk for a few weeks on business right now and in the two years since i left society has changed

violece seems to be the norm, where i used to life in st albans, herts, now has armoured police vans patrolling on fri/sat nights nights \with surveilance cameras looking out for trouble, and duting the day the high street is full of scum looking for aggro.

i live in a 'transitional' neighbourhood in nashville which i am sure has much higher crime and more offences against the individual, but going back to my home town had been an eye-opener

i'm feeling very intolerant right now, after a friend of mine was shot dead in a motiveless killing recently in the us, another friend in the uk beaten up in a 'grown-up' happy slapping attack, separation from my wife, and now this second bomb attack by fundo muslims, i'm extremely pissed off

suffice to say, anyone on my flight my flight wearing a towel on their head carrying a ruck-sack may be liable to a chav-style 'happy-slapping'



Please go easy on him......looks like he is having some personal issues
he seems like a good guy we all have bad days

ImHere Jul 22nd 2005 12:27 am

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What do we expect when we here news that a teenage boy has won his case to appeal curfew orders. Apparently judges ruled its not legal for police to impose curfew orders on anti-social yobs anymore so the little dears can now roam the streets at will.

Happy slaps? If some little twat fancied his chances 'happy slapping' me I wouldnt be calling the police.

Lion in Winter Jul 22nd 2005 12:52 am

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This isn't going to turn into yet another Daily Telegraph, port, country's going to the dogs thread is it?


A thought though, for anyone who's been away a while. Your perspective is changed forever. You are not the same person who left.

AmerLisa Jul 22nd 2005 12:57 am

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Originally Posted by Lion in Winter

A thought though, for anyone who's been away a while. Your perspective is changed forever. You are not the same person who left.

Amen to that! ;)

Lion in Winter Jul 22nd 2005 1:00 am

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Originally Posted by AmerLisa
Amen to that! ;)

Yup. You can't go back, only forward. You may go back to that country, but that's not the same thing.

ImHere Jul 22nd 2005 1:04 am

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Originally Posted by Lion in Winter
Yup. You can't go back, only forward. You may go back to that country, but that's not the same thing.

And tonights second award for "Stating the bleeding obvious" goes too...

Lion in Winter Jul 22nd 2005 1:05 am

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Originally Posted by ImHere
And tonights second award for "Stating the bleeding obvious" goes too...

Shut up and start reading a decent newspaper. :D

sibsie Jul 22nd 2005 1:12 am

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Originally Posted by garfro
Not too far from camberley, my brother lives right near that Tescos at Brooklands

I tried to go there for the M&S but I'd forgotton that everything shuts at Easter.

My parents used to live in Hampton, as did I, but they're now behind bars in St George's Hill.

Isn't there some sort of Military place round Camberly? I seem to remember that there was a fair bit of trouble in the evenings.

gruffbrown Jul 22nd 2005 1:16 am

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Originally Posted by sibsie
I tried to go there for the M&S but I'd forgotton that everything shuts at Easter.

My parents used to live in Hampton, as did I, but they're now behind bars in St George's Hill.

Isn't there some sort of Military place round Camberly? I seem to remember that there was a fair bit of trouble in the evenings.

The Staff College

ImHere Jul 22nd 2005 1:16 am

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Originally Posted by Lion in Winter
Shut up and start reading a decent newspaper. :D

Nothing wrong with News Of The World :eek:

Lion in Winter Jul 22nd 2005 1:23 am

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Originally Posted by ImHere
Nothing wrong with News Of The World :eek:

OK, but the port will give you gout.

Fact.

cindyabs Jul 22nd 2005 1:23 am

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Originally Posted by Lion in Winter
This isn't going to turn into yet another Daily Telegraph, port, country's going to the dogs thread is it?


A thought though, for anyone who's been away a while. Your perspective is changed forever. You are not the same person who left.


You Can't Go Home Again.........

garfro Jul 22nd 2005 1:24 am

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Originally Posted by sibsie
I tried to go there for the M&S but I'd forgotton that everything shuts at Easter.

My parents used to live in Hampton, as did I, but they're now behind bars in St George's Hill.

Isn't there some sort of Military place round Camberly? I seem to remember that there was a fair bit of trouble in the evenings.


there is the royal military acadamy at sandhurst which is very cool as you get to meet officers in training from all over the world in the pubs and shops
also about 10 miles away is Aldershot the home of the british army (i was born there) so sometimes there would be fights between civvies and squaddies, but that was tame compared to the Chavscum in the high st today
have you heard of ..the old dean estate?
G

cindyabs Jul 22nd 2005 1:25 am

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Originally Posted by ImHere
What do we expect when we here news that a teenage boy has won his case to appeal curfew orders. Apparently judges ruled its not legal for police to impose curfew orders on anti-social yobs anymore so the little dears can now roam the streets at will.

Happy slaps? If some little twat fancied his chances 'happy slapping' me I wouldnt be calling the police.


Who ya gonna call-Ghostbusters? :D

gruffbrown Jul 22nd 2005 1:26 am

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Originally Posted by garfro
there is the royal military acadamy at sandhurst which is very cool as you get to meet officers in training from all over the world in the pubs and shops
also about 10 miles away is Aldershot the home of the british army (i was born there) so sometimes there would be fights between civvies and squaddies, but that was tame compared to the Chavscum in the high st today
have you heard of ..the old dean estate?
G

The home of the British army is any pub which will let them in......

Lion in Winter Jul 22nd 2005 1:28 am

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Originally Posted by cindyabs
You Can't Go Home Again.........


I've actually gone through several phases on this one, in the years away. When I was back last year, I decided that you can go home again when you are ready to enjoy the fact that neither you nor home are the same.

Damn I'm philosophical this evening.

gruffbrown Jul 22nd 2005 1:32 am

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Originally Posted by Lion in Winter
I've actually gone through several phases on this one, in the years away. When I was back last year, I decided that you can go home again when you are ready to enjoy the fact that neither you nor home are the same.

Damn I'm philosophical this evening.

And I'm Phil Silvers , but you can call me Bilko....:p

cindyabs Jul 22nd 2005 1:33 am

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Originally Posted by Lion in Winter
I've actually gone through several phases on this one, in the years away. When I was back last year, I decided that you can go home again when you are ready to enjoy the fact that neither you nor home are the same.

Damn I'm philosophical this evening.

Yes you are!!! No floorstripper about is there?
I've not been "home" since I was 21 except for several brief visits. I would dearly love to be able to live there for a few months every year, but chances are slim that will ever happen. I know it wouldn't be the same, the perspective of youth is far different from that of when you are a"certain age." Idealistic as it may be that long ago time and that place still exist in my heart. :)

ImHere Jul 22nd 2005 1:37 am

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Originally Posted by cindyabs
Who ya gonna call-Ghostbusters? :D

ChavBusters

Lion in Winter Jul 22nd 2005 1:37 am

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cindyabs]Yes you are!!! No floorstripper about is there?
Not any more :D



I've not been "home" since I was 21 except for several brief visits. I would dearly love to be able to live there for a few months every year, but chances are slim that will ever happen. I know it wouldn't be the same, the perspective of youth is far different from that of when you are a"certain age." Idealistic as it may be that long ago time and that place still exist in my heart. :)
You can. What you do is, you assimilate past and present and all the in between bits - dialectics, in fact. I had exactly this happen to me in London, which, with a couple of millennia plus behind it, is the perfect metaphor for change and constancy.

OK, I think I'll stop now before the DEA arrive.

Lion in Winter Jul 22nd 2005 1:38 am

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Originally Posted by gruffbrown
And I'm Phil Silvers , but you can call me Bilko....:p

Just Sarge.

gruffbrown Jul 22nd 2005 1:39 am

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Originally Posted by ImHere
ChavBusters

I'm armed with my Burberry extraction gun as we speak......

ImHere Jul 22nd 2005 2:44 am

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Originally Posted by gruffbrown
I'm armed with my Burberry extraction gun as we speak......

Go Go Go

gruffbrown Jul 22nd 2005 2:46 am

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Originally Posted by ImHere
Go Go Go

Squeeze that NY yankees hat off of your head and your last remaining brain cell, you little bastard......

gruffbrown Jul 22nd 2005 2:47 am

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I've always wanted to ask a chav how the yankees are doing this season? The reply..... "Huh, you taking the piss mate?"

ImHere Jul 22nd 2005 2:47 am

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Originally Posted by gruffbrown
Squeeze that NY yankees hat off of your head and your last remaining brain cell, you little bastard......

:D :D

gruffbrown Jul 22nd 2005 2:49 am

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Originally Posted by ImHere
:D :D

If there is one thing I hate about the UK, it is those little bastards :mad:

gruffbrown Jul 22nd 2005 2:49 am

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Originally Posted by gruffbrown
If there is one thing I hate about the UK, it is those little bastards :mad:

Oooh Oooh I almost got agitated there....

ImHere Jul 22nd 2005 3:55 am

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Originally Posted by gruffbrown
If there is one thing I hate about the UK, it is those little bastards :mad:

What the little smillies? :confused:

BritGuyTN Jul 22nd 2005 8:58 am

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Originally Posted by AmeriBrit
Jesus, how ignorant are you? You do realize that the people that you just so beautifully described are Sikh's and not Muslim, right? It's stupid tw*ts like you that cause more trouble than you prevent. Be part of the solution, not part of the problem!

OK since you called me a stupid tw@t....

1. you're retarded for making the assumption that I don't know the difference

I'm british and I lived in multi-cultural north-london for two decades and a very good friend of mine is a sikh

see the attached pic - the bloke on the right is wearing a sikh turban, the one on the left is wearing an afghan style turban as favoured by islamic militants in al-qaeda

2. Although the comments about being sick of this yobbo culture and having my local train station closed for hours yesterday were completely serious, anyone actually thinking the last statement was serious is devoid of any humour.

the use of the nonemclature 'towel head' obviously does NOT refer to sikhs - their turbans look nothing like towels as you can see by the educational picture


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