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What happens to my husband's UK pension once we move to the USA?
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Are you talking about a private pension of the Government State pension?
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Private Pensions.
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Private Pensions.
Is he leaving his job? There are usually options about what to do presented at this time.
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Is he leaving his job? There are usually options about what to do presented at this time.
He will be leaving it once his Visa application is complete (and successful )
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H should consult with his employer, as each scheme varies in its T&Cs.
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Typically he will have a choice to leave it with his employer's fund manager, or transfer it out into a freestanding private pension. Which is best is a value judgement for your husband and any financial advisor he engages to assist him.

What is absolutely certain is that he will not be transferring it to the US. Despite some abstract and theoretical advice in the UK that private pension funds can be transferred into a QROPS (qualified recognised overseas pension scheme), in practice there does not appear to be any way to achieve such a transfer to the US. And despite a lengthy debate and some fairly robust declarations of intent, as far as I know, nobody here on BE has managed to transfer British private pension funds to the US.

Personally I would doubt the wisdom of doing so even if it was possible as diversification has real value and what better way to diversify risk than to have the funds in a completely different jurisdiction.

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He should consult with his employer, as each scheme varies in its T&Cs.
His employer will tell him they can't provide individual advice, other than to supply a copy of the terms and conditions, and tell him to find his own financial advisor.

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Originally Posted by Pulaski
Typically he will have a choice to leave it with his employer's fund manager, or transfer it out into a freestanding private pension. Which is best is a value judgement for your husband and any financial advisor he engages to assist him.

What is absolutely certain is that he will not be transferring it to the US. Despite some abstract and theoretical advice in the UK that private pension funds can be transferred into a QROPS (qualified recognised overseas pension scheme), in practice there does not appear to be any way to achieve such a transfer to the US. And despite a lengthy debate and some fairly robust declarations of intent, as far as I know, nobody here on BE has managed to transfer British private pension funds to the US.

Personally I would doubt the wisdom of doing so even if it was possible as diversification has real value and what better way to diversify risk than to have the funds in a completely different jurisdiction.


His employer will tell him they can't provide individual advice, other than to supply a copy of the terms and conditions, and tell him to find his own financial advisor.
Thanks for this. I will pass on the info to him.

Will he be taxed? Or, will be have to claim it ?
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..... Will he be taxed? Or, will be have to claim it ?
Neither. Whether he leaves it with his soon-to-be-ex-employer or transfers it out, the money remains tax free.
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Originally Posted by AimeeKat
What happens to my husband's UK pension once we move to the USA?
What type of pension is it, defined benefit or defined contribution?

It might have to be included on FBAR and 8938 forms.

Depending on the pension's exact nature it could well be covered by the US/UK double taxation treaty so that any gains are sheltered from US tax.

If your husband is taking income from the pension (and he is US resident) he will need to file a US-Individual2002 to exempt it from UK tax and make sure he includes that income on line 16 of his 1040 so it can be taxed by the US.
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