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Mrmister Jun 26th 2012 9:23 am

Uk firefighter
 
Hi everyone, I'm new here and after a bit of advice. I'm thinking of moving to the USA, California to be exact. I'm a firefighter in the uk and was wondering if there are any of you who know if I could transfer to the USA as a firefighter? I know that the USA fire service is different to the uk I.E ladder coys, etc. I'm sure I heard of someone doing this a while ago but I may be mistaken. Has anyone here known or done a transfer of this kind? Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Jamie

scrubbedexpat099 Jun 26th 2012 10:39 am

Re: Uk firefighter
 

Originally Posted by Mrmister (Post 10140798)
Hi everyone, I'm new here and after a bit of advice. I'm thinking of moving to the USA, California to be exact. I'm a firefighter in the uk and was wondering if there are any of you who know if I could transfer to the USA as a firefighter? I know that the USA fire service is different to the uk I.E ladder coys, etc. I'm sure I heard of someone doing this a while ago but I may be mistaken. Has anyone here known or done a transfer of this kind? Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Jamie

Are you a US Citizen?

Or is your spouse?

fatbrit Jun 26th 2012 10:42 am

Re: Uk firefighter
 

Originally Posted by Mrmister (Post 10140798)
Hi everyone, I'm new here and after a bit of advice. I'm thinking of moving to the USA, California to be exact. I'm a firefighter in the uk and was wondering if there are any of you who know if I could transfer to the USA as a firefighter? I know that the USA fire service is different to the uk I.E ladder coys, etc. I'm sure I heard of someone doing this a while ago but I may be mistaken. Has anyone here known or done a transfer of this kind? Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Jamie

Could you work as a firefighter in the US? I should think the answer is probably yes.

Would your skills as a firefighter allow you to immigrate to the US? Undoubtedly no.

Bob Jun 26th 2012 10:44 am

Re: Uk firefighter
 
Realistically, unless you're either born in Ireland, married to a USC or a USC, chances are slim to none of getting a visa to come here based on being a firefighter.

If you did manage to get here, ability to work would depend on the state and what they require for qualifications.

Welcome to BE though and good luck!

Noorah101 Jun 26th 2012 11:04 am

Re: Uk firefighter
 

Originally Posted by Mrmister (Post 10140798)
Hi everyone, I'm new here and after a bit of advice. I'm thinking of moving to the USA, California to be exact. I'm a firefighter in the uk and was wondering if there are any of you who know if I could transfer to the USA as a firefighter? I know that the USA fire service is different to the uk I.E ladder coys, etc. I'm sure I heard of someone doing this a while ago but I may be mistaken. Has anyone here known or done a transfer of this kind? Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Jamie

Just curious, what makes you want to be a firefighter in the USA, specifically in California?

Rene

Mummy in the foothills Jun 26th 2012 11:14 am

Re: Uk firefighter
 
I'm in California with a few firefighter friends and there are an awful lot of unemployed firefighters about now. Lots of departments cut staff and even closed stations.
Friends Ds is a new firefighter and works another job to support himself and pay for his car payment. He only get a few hours a week at the station and they are now saying, anyone without a paramedic qualification too won't stand a chance at work soon, so this coming school year he's doing his paramedic training.

Mrmister Jun 26th 2012 12:01 pm

Re: Uk firefighter
 
Thanks for the response. I'm not a US citizen and neither is my wife so that's a no go. I am an electrician by trade if that would help?! I have visited ca a bit and loved it, iv also taken an interest in the American firefighters techniques and jobs they attend, would love to live in a beautiful place and carry on my dream job.

Manc Jun 26th 2012 12:04 pm

Re: Uk firefighter
 
Not really gonna happen.

penguinsix Jun 26th 2012 12:17 pm

Re: Uk firefighter
 
Hi and welcome,

Here are the two major problems: there are thousands of unemployed firemen in the USA and any government agency who wants to hire you has to say, with a straight face, that they cannot find a qualified American to be a firemen so they have to bring one in from overseas (a claim that even if you got them to make the US government would likely reject). Turn it the other way--in the age of austerity in the UK and massive redundancies, which fire brigade is going to import, at a substantial cost, firemen from Australia and Canada rather than hiring someone who is a UK citizen?

If you really want to come, you could try some of the following:

Study at a US university (expensive and you cannot work).
Develop a hyper-specialized fire fighting skill, such as oil platform fire fighting and then try to get a job with a multinational oil company.
Get a university degree in the sciences or engineering and come over with a different trade (think computer programming or engineering).
Get a new wife who is a US citizen.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

Good luck.

Jerseygirl Jun 26th 2012 12:40 pm

Re: Uk firefighter
 

Originally Posted by Mrmister (Post 10141021)
Thanks for the response. I'm not a US citizen and neither is my wife so that's a no go. I am an electrician by trade if that would help?! I have visited ca a bit and loved it, iv also taken an interest in the American firefighters techniques and jobs they attend, would love to live in a beautiful place and carry on my dream job.

England is a beautiful place. :)

Giantaxe Jun 26th 2012 12:43 pm

Re: Uk firefighter
 

Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 10141053)
England is a beautiful place. :)

And not quite as in as much a financial mess as California ;)

Bink Jun 26th 2012 12:44 pm

Re: Uk firefighter
 

Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 10141053)
England is a beautiful place. :)

It is. Just a shame the weather sucks! :rofl:

Manc Jun 26th 2012 1:11 pm

Re: Uk firefighter
 
yeah, no hurricanes, tornados, dust storms, 6 ft snow difts, 105f scorchers,

I don't know how they stand it.

Scouse Express Jun 26th 2012 1:50 pm

Re: Uk firefighter
 
Colorado is probably looking for firefighters about now.


Jim.

Yorkieabroad Jun 26th 2012 2:46 pm

Re: Uk firefighter
 
Our firefighters are all unpaid volunteers......mate who was an ex-seafarer (already trained) joined up and even had to pay for his own training/conversion and buy his own uniform and equipment. And he had to pass the paramedics exams as the fire truck normally gets to any of the shouts ahead of the ambulances.

fatbrit Jun 26th 2012 3:11 pm

Re: Uk firefighter
 

Originally Posted by Scouse Express (Post 10141121)
Colorado is probably looking for firefighters about now.


Jim.

But it's irrelevant to the OP whether America needs ten thousand new firefighters or has ten thousand too many. Similarly (previous post) it's irrelevant whether he gets his paramedic certification or not.

Manc Jun 26th 2012 4:49 pm

Re: Uk firefighter
 
no offense either, but if my local council hired a foreign firefighter with 2 million people in ohio on the dole, it would be like committing political suicide.

calliope Jun 26th 2012 7:36 pm

Re: Uk firefighter
 

Originally Posted by Mrmister (Post 10141021)
Thanks for the response. I'm not a US citizen and neither is my wife so that's a no go. I am an electrician by trade if that would help?! I have visited ca a bit and loved it, iv also taken an interest in the American firefighters techniques and jobs they attend, would love to live in a beautiful place and carry on my dream job.

Of all the countries in the English-speaking world, the greatest disparity between visiting and living in is to be found in America, as many here will tell you.

Where were you, your wife, your parents, and your wife's parents, born?

calliope Jun 26th 2012 7:37 pm

Re: Uk firefighter
 

Originally Posted by Manc (Post 10141288)
no offense either, but if my local council hired a foreign firefighter with 2 million people in ohio on the dole, it would be like committing political suicide.

Wow! That's half the population of New Zealand!:eek:

christmasoompa Jun 26th 2012 8:31 pm

Re: Uk firefighter
 
Just in case you haven't seen it yet, here is the list of visa options for the US. http://britishexpats.com/wiki/Pulaski's_Ways%3A_How_to_Live_and_Work_in_the_USA

As you can see, neither a firefighter nor an electrician would qualify for any of those, so you'll need to think of a Plan B if you really want to move to the US.

Best of luck.

Ruth16 Jun 27th 2012 12:14 am

Re: Uk firefighter
 

Originally Posted by Mrmister (Post 10140798)
Hi everyone, I'm new here and after a bit of advice. I'm thinking of moving to the USA, California to be exact. I'm a firefighter in the uk and was wondering if there are any of you who know if I could transfer to the USA as a firefighter? I know that the USA fire service is different to the uk I.E ladder coys, etc. I'm sure I heard of someone doing this a while ago but I may be mistaken. Has anyone here known or done a transfer of this kind? Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Jamie

Not sure if you need to be a US citizen for a f fighters job, you might have a better chance in a smaller state than CA, openings come often as the retirement packages are so good many f fighters retire at an early age as they all have second jobs to work at, I think you have to pass a f fighter one course before even applying to get on the list.

scrubbedexpat099 Jun 27th 2012 12:31 am

Re: Uk firefighter
 
The Fire Dept where I am is Volunteer, that does not mean money and goods do not change hands however.

Ruth16 Jun 27th 2012 12:46 am

Re: Uk firefighter
 

Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 10141934)
The Fire Dept where I am is Volunteer, that does not mean money and goods do not change hands however.

You mean bribes ? Not where I live, knowing someone won't help either, the men can't even get their own kids on the job.

Bob Jun 27th 2012 12:55 am

Re: Uk firefighter
 

Originally Posted by Ruth16 (Post 10141875)
Not sure if you need to be a US citizen for a f fighters job, you might have a better chance in a smaller state than CA, openings come often as the retirement packages are so good many f fighters retire at an early age as they all have second jobs to work at, I think you have to pass a f fighter one course before even applying to get on the list.

The flip side, many of those smaller towns, in those smaller states are all volunteer and the level of skill varies from a couple of properly trained people to the completely inept getting a volunteer position because they're popular in town.

One advantage though out in the sticks, being able to get fire fighter plates for your car. FIL hasn't been the town fire chief for 15 years now, but he still has his fire chief plates and hasn't gotten a speeding ticket because of them :lol:

Ruth16 Jun 27th 2012 1:12 am

Re: Uk firefighter
 

Originally Posted by Bob (Post 10142004)
The flip side, many of those smaller towns, in those smaller states are all volunteer and the level of skill varies from a couple of properly trained people to the completely inept getting a volunteer position because they're popular in town.

One advantage though out in the sticks, being able to get fire fighter plates for your car. FIL hasn't been the town fire chief for 15 years now, but he still has his fire chief plates and hasn't gotten a speeding ticket because of them :lol:

Yes I can imagine volunteers haveing car plates, doubt you'd see paid guys having anything like that, some do have small stickers in the rear window, but never plates.

Manc Jun 27th 2012 1:13 am

Re: Uk firefighter
 
they don't need plates. the local dibble will know who the first responders are. They'll see them enough.

Bob Jun 27th 2012 2:26 am

Re: Uk firefighter
 

Originally Posted by Ruth16 (Post 10142040)
Yes I can imagine volunteers haveing car plates, doubt you'd see paid guys having anything like that, some do have small stickers in the rear window, but never plates.

Around here and up in Maine, firefighter plates are needed for them to get the red lights on the grill, as they're volunteers, only a person or two man the fire truck.

Most drive straight out to a shout from where ever they're working in their own motor in the sticks, hence the need for the plates.

scrubbedexpat099 Jun 27th 2012 2:31 am

Re: Uk firefighter
 
Free Gas for you and your Family is one of the biggies.

Bob Jun 27th 2012 3:17 am

Re: Uk firefighter
 

Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 10142196)
Free Gas for you and your Family is one of the biggies.

That's not bad going! Don't get that around here :lol:

Sally Redux Jun 27th 2012 3:32 am

Re: Uk firefighter
 

Originally Posted by Manc (Post 10141085)
yeah, no hurricanes, tornados, dust storms, 6 ft snow difts, 105f scorchers,

I don't know how they stand it.

Brush fires, earthquakes...

Bink Jun 27th 2012 5:56 am

Re: Uk firefighter
 

Originally Posted by Manc (Post 10141085)
yeah, no hurricanes, tornados, dust storms, 6 ft snow difts, 105f scorchers,

I don't know how they stand it.

Sheesh, big fuss about nothing. What's that compared to a WHOLE summer of rain. :p

Sally Redux Jun 27th 2012 6:08 am

Re: Uk firefighter
 

Originally Posted by Bink (Post 10142697)
Sheesh, big fuss about nothing. What's that compared to a WHOLE summer of rain. :p

My friend was having a right good moan about the 'worst summer ever' and the Olympics :lol:

Ruth16 Jun 27th 2012 6:38 am

Re: Uk firefighter
 

Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 10142196)
Free Gas for you and your Family is one of the biggies.


Where did you hear that, I've. Never heard of such a thing as Them getting free gas, what Sate is that in ?

I know in England anyone can get free fire alarms put in also the FD supplies free batteries for them , so I assume there not hard wired one, but still there free.

Bob Jun 27th 2012 6:48 am

Re: Uk firefighter
 

Originally Posted by Ruth16 (Post 10142761)
Where did you hear that, I've. Never heard of such a thing as Them getting free gas, what Sate is that in ?

Just under his name, where it says Colorado....

Redwing Jun 27th 2012 9:02 am

Re: Uk firefighter
 
At disaster response training earlier this year, we were told that 95% firefighters are also first responders. I never thought to ask if that included volunteers. Our city firefighters, who are paid, have to be certified first responders.


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