Kaffy Mintcake

I've flown a lot this year and have gone through the body scan many times. It really didn't seem to take that long. Sure, I'd rather that I didn't have to do it, but I'm not going to lose sleep over it either.

What's annoying is when someone doesn't know the guidelines and holds the whole line up.

CelticRover

I had to give mine up also. The plane had a jovial male flight steward who liked to take the piss, but when I asked him jokingly if I could have my knife back because I needed it, I thought for a minute he was going to turn the flight around. I had to soothe him and we continued on to our destination .

Yorkieabroad

Can't argue with that - nothing in any of my posts has suggested anything different has it? Which is exactly why I don't think any section of the people boarding the plane should have a blanket exemption from the final line of ground security, whatever form that may take. It may not be perfect - in fact it may be a long way from perfect - but I can't understand how allowing anyone to by-pass it could make it any more effective?

Wolfy

Not only that but cargo liners found with devices on east midlands and germany i think, so tbh more checks the better, but they have to do proper checks

tonrob

No - not more checks, just proper (i.e. appropriate) ones.

Dogbyte

What would people prefer. Losing ones 'Ego' and personal liberties over the checks or being blown to smithereens. Full stop,simple.

tonrob

Sorry - going to have to call bollocks on your logic on that one. It's not an either/or, and it's not simple in the slightest. It is not logical to go to any lengths imaginable in order to avoid harm. You could never get out of bed, and still have the roof collapse on top of you.

Brit3964

This is well-timed for this debate...

Refusal of Calif airport screening is Internet hit

A man who refused a body scan and pat-down search at a San Diego airport has become an Internet sensation in the debate weighing fliers' security versus their privacy.

John Tyner posted a cell phone audio recording of his half-hour encounter Saturday at Lindbergh Field.

The software engineer couldn't board a flight after refusing a full-body scan that reveals an image of what's under his clothes. He also wouldn't allow a Transportation Security Administration worker to conduct a groin check. Tyner tells the worker, "If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested."

Tyner's blog says he left the airport _ but only after being threatened with a lawsuit and fine for failing to complete security screening.

A TSA statement Sunday said body scans and pat-downs make flying safer.

http://www.rr.com/news/topic/article...cmpid=RRWMHero

tonrob

Here's a call for men to wear kilts on Opt Out Day!

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/...w-twist/66545/

MsElui

VERY funny!

chartreuse

There must be something in the water at San Diego. Following on from Brit3964's post, now this:

TSA airport screeners gone wild in San Diego- again

In other words, the man was arrested because he failed to comply with the supervisor's demand that he pretend to conceal something so that the screeners could pretend to look for it.

tonrob

There's a couple of threads on Flyertalk about how best to handle being groped by the TSA, ranging from moaning with pleasure, directing them to rub a bit more where it feels best or simply trying to time a fart to best effect. I do believe that stripping off was one strategy mentioned so maybe our San Diego fellow was trying out that one.

Octang Frye

Whoops, I meant to post this here.

The TSA keeps trotting out the underwear bomber as an excuse about why we need this invasive screening.

Let's go back over the facts.

The underwear bomber Abdulmutallab’s father reported him to the CIA, saying that he was was worried his son had become radicalized in Yemen.

Abdulmutallab was subsequently on a no-fly list, purchased a one-way ticket - in cash - and had no luggage.

Yet he was still able to fly?.... Hmm....
Is it even possible to have any more red flags than that?

So because of their monumental incompetence - or perhaps an ulterior motive $$$.... - we now have to be degraded and groped.

What a world.

Octang Frye

Your post makes no sense. What does "losing ones[sic] 'Ego'" mean?

Blown to smithereens? The TSA hasn't stopped one terrorist.

tonrob

TSA chief trying to make out that it's the people who opt out of scans rather than the TSA themselves who will cause Thanksgiving delays:

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...86e9917abcfd38

God I hate these self-serving, truth-twisting bunch of twats.