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Old Jan 16th 2008, 4:30 pm
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Old Jan 16th 2008, 4:36 pm
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Obviously the right step to take now that all the US borders are 100% secure.
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Just watch the US tourism industry head further into decline as Europeans head elsewhere in the world for vacations and shopping.
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Just watch the US tourism industry head further into decline as Europeans head elsewhere in the world for vacations and shopping.
Tourism is booming - mainly due to the weak dollar.
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Tourism is booming - mainly due to the weak dollar.
Are you sure???? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/ma...travel-103.xml
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Old Jan 16th 2008, 8:08 pm
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Tourism is booming - mainly due to the weak dollar.
2006 Finally Returning to Pre-9/11 Numbers
• International travel to the US, which reached its peak in 2000 with 51.2 million visitors, hit its low in 2003 with only 41.2 million visitors.
• In 2006, the United States is projected to return to – and possibly surpass – the pre-9/11 international arrivals.
• While this statistic may sound encouraging, the US has failed to capture any of the nearly 20 percent increase of worldwide travel since 2000. In addition, much of the increase in international visitation can largely be attributed to Canadian travel, a market now threatened by the challenges surrounded the upcoming implementation of the Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative (WHTI).
• Overseas travel to the US has dropped by 17 percent since 2000.

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• While this statistic may sound encouraging, the US has failed to capture any of the nearly 20 percent increase of worldwide travel since 2000. In addition, much of the increase in international visitation can largely be attributed to Canadian travel, a market now threatened by the challenges surrounded the upcoming implementation of the Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative (WHTI).
So the US's share of international tourism has dropped significantly post-9/11. As has it's share of the international student market. Maybe it sees this as a reasonable price to pay for supposed increased security.
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Old Jan 16th 2008, 9:31 pm
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So the US's share of international tourism has dropped significantly post-9/11. As has it's share of the international student market. Maybe it sees this as a reasonable price to pay for supposed increased security.
The ruling apparatchik need security concerns centre stage to remain in power and continue the transfer of money to their oligarchy. For average Joe, it gives no benefit at all.
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The ruling apparatchik need security concerns centre stage to remain in power and continue the transfer of money to their oligarchy. For average Joe, it gives no benefit at all.
Indeed. Wait for the colour-coded security levels to be ratched up come the election season this fall.
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Just watch the US tourism industry head further into decline as Europeans head elsewhere in the world for vacations and shopping.
Don't know if any of that would be compensated for by Americans who'd be turned off visiting Yurp because it would mean applying for visas (visa waivers are usually reciprocal). Probably not - they'd likely just go to Lat Am.
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Old Jan 16th 2008, 10:31 pm
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"We have the visa waiver programme which allows most Europeans who come to be tourists to come without visas. That means the first time we encounter them is when they arrive in the United States, and that creates a very small window of opportunity to check them out," he said."

I thought they were already doing this -- the list of passengers and their passport details have to be faxed/emailed to the US before/when the flight takes off! Exactly how much vetting do they need to do?

They have as big an opportunity to check them out as they want. It's called secondary.
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Old Jan 16th 2008, 10:34 pm
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"We have the visa waiver programme which allows most Europeans who come to be tourists to come without visas. That means the first time we encounter them is when they arrive in the United States, and that creates a very small window of opportunity to check them out," he said."

I thought they were already doing this -- the list of passengers and their passport details have to be faxed/emailed to the US before/when the flight takes off! Exactly how much vetting do they need to do?

They have as big an opportunity to check them out as they want. It's called secondary.

All fair points. Perhaps foreign visitors could apply for their visa a year in advance (like immigrants), and then they'd have enough time to check them out?
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All fair points. Perhaps foreign visitors could apply for their visa a year in advance (like immigrants), and then they'd have enough time to check them out?
They still wouldn't know what they're doing...look at the whole K1 and then doing the whole thing over again to AOS once your here etc....
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They still wouldn't know what they're doing...look at the whole K1 and then doing the whole thing over again to AOS once your here etc....
....and it won't stop a serious criminal, either.
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