Top surgeon calls for NHS rethink
** Top surgeon calls for NHS rethink **
A NHS funded entirely by tax is unsustainable and should go, the new head of the Royal College of Surgeons says. < http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/1/h...th/4148114.stm > Interesting theory and something I thought would/will happen eventually, unfortunately. |
Re: Top surgeon calls for NHS rethink
After working in the NHS for 12 years something has to bee done, the NHS is on its knees people who can afford to pay should and those that cannot get it free. I have friends in Australia and there they have a 2 tier system private and state funded, maybe that would work in the UK. But firstly they need to get rid of all the highly paid administrators who know their arse from their elbow then they may make progress. BTW I know Doctors in the NHS who would like it privitised.
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Re: Top surgeon calls for NHS rethink
Originally Posted by dragonfly
After working in the NHS for 12 years something has to bee done, the NHS is on its knees people who can afford to pay should and those that cannot get it free. I have friends in Australia and there they have a 2 tier system private and state funded, maybe that would work in the UK. But firstly they need to get rid of all the highly paid administrators who know their arse from their elbow then they may make progress. BTW I know Doctors in the NHS who would like it privitised.
I don't know about now, I've been gone a long time, but there were more admin people than doctors and nurses combined when I left. Of course if you fire half of them, you make the unemployment figure look bad. |
Re: Top surgeon calls for NHS rethink
Originally Posted by dragonfly
After working in the NHS for 12 years something has to bee done, the NHS is on its knees people who can afford to pay should and those that cannot get it free. I have friends in Australia and there they have a 2 tier system private and state funded, maybe that would work in the UK. But firstly they need to get rid of all the highly paid administrators who know their arse from their elbow then they may make progress. BTW I know Doctors in the NHS who would like it privitised.
Whatever the problems with the NHS it's still better than the mess that exisits in the USA by a long way. |
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Originally Posted by RoB1833
Doesn't taxation already pay for the NHS, are you asking people to pay twice?
Whatever the problems with the NHS it's still better than the mess that exisits in the USA by a long way. |
Re: Top surgeon calls for NHS rethink
Originally Posted by RoB1833
Doesn't taxation already pay for the NHS, are you asking people to pay twice?
Whatever the problems with the NHS it's still better than the mess that exisits in the USA by a long way. |
Re: Top surgeon calls for NHS rethink
Originally Posted by dragonfly
:D People in the USA who do not have insurance can have acess to healthcare it is called medicaid and medicare.
The NHS no doubt needs a good sort-out, but in general the system is good, and has served the UK well enough for a long, long time. Naturally, wealthy surgeons and doctors will advocate private medicine - why wouldn't they? It would become just another money-making business for them - as in the USA ! |
Re: Top surgeon calls for NHS rethink
Originally Posted by ImHere
I concur. On both points.
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Re: Top surgeon calls for NHS rethink
Originally Posted by dragonfly
People in the USA who do not have insurance can have acess to healthcare it is called medicaid and medicare.
If you think that every family who can't afford health insurance qualifies for Medicaid then you are living with blinkers on. yes it's available for the very poor but what about the many people who just earn too much?...even $50 too much. Many middle class Americans fall in the ever widening dark place that exists between being too poor to afford health insurance and being too rich to receive any help........say what you want about the NHS but it doesn't make parents worry about how they're going to pay their bills while sitting with a child in hospital ..neither does it make people bankrupt. how many American's just don't go to see the doctor when something is wrong just because they can't afford the bill? it's shameful... my family back in the U.k just find it hard to believe..America is supposed to be a world leader..yet many of it's citizens have no health insurance... :mad: |
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Originally Posted by Dimsie
Dragonfly - That's a rather dubious statement in my opinion. I have been here less than a year and know of 2 US citizens who have been made either bankrupt and forced to sell their home , or had to re-mortgage their home, to pay medical bills. In both cases, they were temporarily uninsured due to adverse cicrumstances, after having paid insurance all their working lives.
The NHS no doubt needs a good sort-out, but in general the system is good, and has served the UK well enough for a long, long time. Naturally, wealthy surgeons and doctors will advocate private medicine - why wouldn't they? It would become just another money-making business for them - as in the USA ! |
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Originally Posted by Celtic_Angel
how many American's just don't go to see the doctor when something is wrong just because they can't afford the bill? it's shameful... my family back in the U.k just find it hard to believe..America is supposed to be a world leader..yet many of it's citizens have no health insurance... :mad: |
Re: Top surgeon calls for NHS rethink
Originally Posted by dragonfly
People in the USA who do not have insurance can have acess to healthcare it is called medicaid and medicare.
That is simply not true. There are millions of Americans who go untreated because they can't afford insurance and can't afford treatment...many of them children, which is a national disgrace IMO. The NHS has always needed overhauling and there is always some doctor or other who thinks it ought to be privatised...but even Thatcher couldn't dismantle this one. People in Uk often pay privately for treatment if they have to wait a while on NHS...but the supreme benefit of the institution is that EVERY person CAN get medical treatment...that should never ever be stopped. |
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Originally Posted by paddingtongreen
I don't know about now, I've been gone a long time, but there were more admin people than doctors and nurses combined when I left. Of course if you fire half of them, you make the unemployment figure look bad.
Anyone can say what they like about the NHS but I would choose it anyday over the health system in the US. Morgan Spurlock (the guy who did the show '30 days') could not have said it better... 'we don't have health care in the US, we have sick care' Ash :) |
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No! http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/...ked/icon24.gif Don't do it! I was a nurse in the NHS for 13 years, and have been one in the USA for nearly 2. If the UK adopts the awful mess that is USA healthcare then I'm moving to Outer Mongolia! :rolleyes:
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