Thoughts on Citizenship
#1
Thoughts on Citizenship
Less than a week to go until my oath and I'm wondering if I should be feeling anything? Should I have some sort of upwelling of civic pride or sadness about pushing my UK citizenship down a rung?
I'm sort of feeling nothing really. It feels like just another bureaucratic thing to be done. Obviously I am taking the oath in good faith and will mean every word of it when I say it, just no real emotion. Perhaps I will surprise myself and burst in to tears, I don't know.
Talking to some of my born and bred USC friends there seems to be something in a lot of them, perhaps the way they were brought up, that makes their citizenship and allegiance to the flag very emotional. I don't know if I'll ever understand it. I don't think Brits in general think the same way about such things.
I'm sort of feeling nothing really. It feels like just another bureaucratic thing to be done. Obviously I am taking the oath in good faith and will mean every word of it when I say it, just no real emotion. Perhaps I will surprise myself and burst in to tears, I don't know.
Talking to some of my born and bred USC friends there seems to be something in a lot of them, perhaps the way they were brought up, that makes their citizenship and allegiance to the flag very emotional. I don't know if I'll ever understand it. I don't think Brits in general think the same way about such things.
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Re: Thoughts on Citizenship
Less than a week to go until my oath and I'm wondering if I should be feeling anything? Should I have some sort of upwelling of civic pride or sadness about pushing my UK citizenship down a rung?
I'm sort of feeling nothing really. It feels like just another bureaucratic thing to be done. Obviously I am taking the oath in good faith and will mean every word of it when I say it, just no real emotion. Perhaps I will surprise myself and burst in to tears, I don't know.
Talking to some of my born and bred USC friends there seems to be something in a lot of them, perhaps the way they were brought up, that makes their citizenship and allegiance to the flag very emotional. I don't know if I'll ever understand it. I don't think Brits in general think the same way about such things.
I'm sort of feeling nothing really. It feels like just another bureaucratic thing to be done. Obviously I am taking the oath in good faith and will mean every word of it when I say it, just no real emotion. Perhaps I will surprise myself and burst in to tears, I don't know.
Talking to some of my born and bred USC friends there seems to be something in a lot of them, perhaps the way they were brought up, that makes their citizenship and allegiance to the flag very emotional. I don't know if I'll ever understand it. I don't think Brits in general think the same way about such things.
#3
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Likewise, I wouldn't really expect anyone taking on UK citizenship to feel any different. Why would they?
#4
Re: Thoughts on Citizenship
Less than a week to go until my oath and I'm wondering if I should be feeling anything? Should I have some sort of upwelling of civic pride or sadness about pushing my UK citizenship down a rung?
I'm sort of feeling nothing really. It feels like just another bureaucratic thing to be done. Obviously I am taking the oath in good faith and will mean every word of it when I say it, just no real emotion. Perhaps I will surprise myself and burst in to tears, I don't know.
Talking to some of my born and bred USC friends there seems to be something in a lot of them, perhaps the way they were brought up, that makes their citizenship and allegiance to the flag very emotional. I don't know if I'll ever understand it. I don't think Brits in general think the same way about such things.
I'm sort of feeling nothing really. It feels like just another bureaucratic thing to be done. Obviously I am taking the oath in good faith and will mean every word of it when I say it, just no real emotion. Perhaps I will surprise myself and burst in to tears, I don't know.
Talking to some of my born and bred USC friends there seems to be something in a lot of them, perhaps the way they were brought up, that makes their citizenship and allegiance to the flag very emotional. I don't know if I'll ever understand it. I don't think Brits in general think the same way about such things.
#6
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Although you are only one - you now have the right to vote. In my opinion, the ability to vote gives you the right to bitch and complain. If you don't exercise the franchise, don't bitch.
#7
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The point at which I felt I was a USC wasn't the Oath Ceremony itself but once the blue passport arrived. To me, that's the real value of Citizenship (and the right to vote).
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Re: Thoughts on Citizenship
I agree with this, and this gets at why I chose to become a US Citizen in 2006. To be honest, I've always been a bit prejudiced against the United States.. American Exceptionalism, hypocrisy, imperialism, torture, Vietnam, Guantanamo, you name it. I was always bitching and complaining, but as an outsider. I felt if I knocked on the door and was let in (after all, I'd been paying the taxes for a decade and more,) then I could vote, give money to candidates, and bitch and complain.
#9
Re: Thoughts on Citizenship
Less than a week to go until my oath and I'm wondering if I should be feeling anything? Should I have some sort of upwelling of civic pride or sadness about pushing my UK citizenship down a rung?
I'm sort of feeling nothing really. It feels like just another bureaucratic thing to be done. Obviously I am taking the oath in good faith and will mean every word of it when I say it, just no real emotion. Perhaps I will surprise myself and burst in to tears, I don't know.
Talking to some of my born and bred USC friends there seems to be something in a lot of them, perhaps the way they were brought up, that makes their citizenship and allegiance to the flag very emotional. I don't know if I'll ever understand it. I don't think Brits in general think the same way about such things.
I'm sort of feeling nothing really. It feels like just another bureaucratic thing to be done. Obviously I am taking the oath in good faith and will mean every word of it when I say it, just no real emotion. Perhaps I will surprise myself and burst in to tears, I don't know.
Talking to some of my born and bred USC friends there seems to be something in a lot of them, perhaps the way they were brought up, that makes their citizenship and allegiance to the flag very emotional. I don't know if I'll ever understand it. I don't think Brits in general think the same way about such things.
#10
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In 1940, a fair number of European born Jews naturalized as American Citizens. Among them were my mother and her parents. Here is a picture of another one talking to the judge after administration of the oath in 1940.
I have attended one swearing-in in my life. I can't quantify it, but there is something about that very solemn oath. I was born a US citizen, but my grandparents passed on the idea that it was something quite special and that is why they did it.
Here is a link to what the late William Safire wrote about the private swearing in ceremony for his English wife, Helene.
I have attended one swearing-in in my life. I can't quantify it, but there is something about that very solemn oath. I was born a US citizen, but my grandparents passed on the idea that it was something quite special and that is why they did it.
Here is a link to what the late William Safire wrote about the private swearing in ceremony for his English wife, Helene.
Last edited by S Folinsky; Nov 13th 2011 at 9:35 pm.
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Re: Thoughts on Citizenship
The only real feeling was "they can't chuck me out now". I was pleased when I got the passport and didn't have to make any emergency trips while waiting for it. Good luck with your oath ceremony.
#14
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Dito and that's it felt nothing still don't it is what it is and I we are still UK Citizens so who cares it just another day!
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Re: Thoughts on Citizenship
Less than a week to go until my oath and I'm wondering if I should be feeling anything? Should I have some sort of upwelling of civic pride or sadness about pushing my UK citizenship down a rung?
I'm sort of feeling nothing really. It feels like just another bureaucratic thing to be done. Obviously I am taking the oath in good faith and will mean every word of it when I say it, just no real emotion. Perhaps I will surprise myself and burst in to tears, I don't know.
Talking to some of my born and bred USC friends there seems to be something in a lot of them, perhaps the way they were brought up, that makes their citizenship and allegiance to the flag very emotional. I don't know if I'll ever understand it. I don't think Brits in general think the same way about such things.
I'm sort of feeling nothing really. It feels like just another bureaucratic thing to be done. Obviously I am taking the oath in good faith and will mean every word of it when I say it, just no real emotion. Perhaps I will surprise myself and burst in to tears, I don't know.
Talking to some of my born and bred USC friends there seems to be something in a lot of them, perhaps the way they were brought up, that makes their citizenship and allegiance to the flag very emotional. I don't know if I'll ever understand it. I don't think Brits in general think the same way about such things.