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Thought getting US Citizenship made you safe?

Old Dec 29th 2005, 2:27 pm
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Default Thought getting US Citizenship made you safe?

Demjanjuk, who came to the United States in 1952, lost his U.S. citizenship after a judge ruled in 2002 that documents from World War II prove he was a Nazi guard at various death or forced labor camps.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051229/...uk_deportation

I always thought that once you got citizenship, it couldn't be taken away. Shows how wrong I was
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Old Dec 29th 2005, 2:30 pm
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Originally Posted by ScousePete
Demjanjuk, who came to the United States in 1952, lost his U.S. citizenship after a judge ruled in 2002 that documents from World War II prove he was a Nazi guard at various death or forced labor camps.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051229/...uk_deportation

I always thought that once you got citizenship, it couldn't be taken away. Shows how wrong I was
but if he lied on the app, it can be revoked.
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Originally Posted by Manc
but if he lied on the app, it can be revoked.
Did you, during the period March 23, 1933 to May 8, 1945, in association with either the Nazi Government of Germany or any organization or government associated or allied with the Nazi Government of Germany, ever order, incite, assist or otherwise participate in the persecution of any person because of race, religion, national origin, or political opinion?

He lied...perhaps
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Old Dec 29th 2005, 2:45 pm
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Originally Posted by Manc
but if he lied on the app, it can be revoked.
You have a good point there Manc.
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Old Dec 29th 2005, 2:52 pm
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Default Re: Thought getting US Citizenship made you safe?

Originally Posted by Manc
but if he lied on the app, it can be revoked.
That answer is on the money.
The toughest question to get around on N400 form, Between March 23, 1933, and May 8, 1945, did you work for or associate in any way (either directly or indirectly) with
a. The Nazis government of Germany?
b. Any government in any area (1) occupied by, (2) allied with, or (3) established with the help of the Nazi government of Germany?
c. Any German, Nazi, or S.S. military unit, self defense unit, vigilante unit, citizen unit, police unit, government agency or office, extermination camp, concentration camp, prisoner of war camp, prison, labor camp, or transit camp?

Lie & cheat to get it. Whoops, you lose it.

Frankly, chuck him out ASAP. 53 years to late, in my book.
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Old Dec 29th 2005, 2:54 pm
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Originally Posted by frrussre
The toughest question to get around on N400 form,
If you're a guy and lived here between 18-25 then the toughest question is the selective service one.............
can f**k people up right royally.
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Originally Posted by Manc
If you're a guy and lived here between 18-25 then the toughest question is the selective service one.............
can f**k people up right royally.
Not really Manc, even if you did not sign for selective service, after 3 or 5 years good moral Turpitude, you can probably get a waiver.

Nazis deal. Zero chance. Less then a dogs chance.
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I ready yesterday that the government has spent 4.5 million dollars looking into changes to the citizenship questionaire. They have another 2 million set aside for testing and they hope to have it in place by 2007. The new questionaire will be more based on what citizenship of American means, instead of a bunch of easily memorized questions.

How many American's do you think, would be able to answer the current questions?
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Default Re: Thought getting US Citizenship made you safe?

Originally Posted by frrussre
Not really Manc, even if you did not sign for selective service, after 3 or 5 years good moral Turpitude, you can probably get a waiver.

Nazis deal. Zero chance. Less then a dogs chance.
Reg. Frank R.
agree.
The earliest you can get citizenship is age 31 if you never registered for SSS...... which will show 5 years good moral character and cannot be denied citizenship on failure to enroll in SSS alone.
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Originally Posted by Manc
agree.
The earliest you can get citizenship is age 31 if you never registered for SSS...... which will show 5 years good moral character and cannot be denied citizenship on failure to enroll in SSS alone.
Yeah the Selective Service Question got me when I filled out the paperwork... to be honest, I have no clue if I signed up or not, so I've decided not to go ahead with citizenship at the moment.

I was fairly confident about the Nazi question though, seeing as I was born in 1974
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Originally Posted by Manc
agree.
The earliest you can get citizenship is age 31 if you never registered for SSS...... which will show 5 years good moral character and cannot be denied citizenship on failure to enroll in SSS alone.

I've seen people argue you could do it at 29 (26+3) if you were claiming 3 years due to marriage to USC. Is the jury still out on that one?
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Originally Posted by Titchski
Yeah the Selective Service Question got me when I filled out the paperwork... to be honest, I have no clue if I signed up or not, so I've decided not to go ahead with citizenship at the moment.

I was fairly confident about the Nazi question though, seeing as I was born in 1974
I'm gonna wait until I am 31 anyhow. I didn't become a permanent resident until I was 26, but did land here and submit AOS while I was 25.

so just gonna sit it out I think
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Originally Posted by Manc
I'm gonna wait until I am 31 anyhow. I didn't become a permanent resident until I was 26, but did land here and submit AOS while I was 25.

so just gonna sit it out I think
Being an old(er) [email protected] Im fairly safe on that one.
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Originally Posted by Angry White Pyjamas
Being an old(er) [email protected] Im fairly safe on that one.
I am 30 next month FFS.................
radio 2 here I come.
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I am 30 next month FFS.................
radio 2 here I come.
Your life is over; you know that right?
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