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Old Jul 17th 2009, 11:59 am
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Hi all,
know there are similar topics on here, which I have read through,

Have a couple of questions regarding teaching in the U.S,specifically New York City.

I have been researching this for a couple on months and drawn a blank; even contacting the New York Education Board hasn't bee a huge help. Basically I'm just about to start my NQT year and have some 6th Form experience as well as a TEFL qualification and am trained in Secondary English, Film and Drama. In a year or two (so around 2011) I hope to teach in New York City and, well, wondered where to start regarding the application process/finding out how to get 'in' to it?

I have a 1st Class degree in English and am finishing off an MEd also. I have no real clue where to start applying for posts,looking for what's needed etc. and, like I say, virtually every where I've checked seems to be of limited help!?

It was suggested that I could simply take the NYC teaching certficate and then (the hard part!) find a job. And that I didn't need to go through any other channels etc. as they would sort it for me. Apparently this is specific o NYC, or so I've been told.

I really don't want to take part in an exchange program as I want to specifcally teach in NYC - wondere if anyone could help?

Lastly! If there was not a snowball's chance in hell of me teaching in NYC I thought I'd enquire about Canada and wondered about the application process there.

Any help would be great, thanks.
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Originally Posted by YesteraysNews
Hi all,
know there are similar topics on here, which I have read through,

Have a couple of questions regarding teaching in the U.S,specifically New York City.

I have been researching this for a couple on months and drawn a blank; even contacting the New York Education Board hasn't bee a huge help. Basically I'm just about to start my NQT year and have some 6th Form experience as well as a TEFL qualification and am trained in Secondary English, Film and Drama. In a year or two (so around 2011) I hope to teach in New York City and, well, wondered where to start regarding the application process/finding out how to get 'in' to it?

I have a 1st Class degree in English and am finishing off an MEd also. I have no real clue where to start applying for posts,looking for what's needed etc. and, like I say, virtually every where I've checked seems to be of limited help!?

It was suggested that I could simply take the NYC teaching certficate and then (the hard part!) find a job. And that I didn't need to go through any other channels etc. as they would sort it for me. Apparently this is specific o NYC, or so I've been told.

I really don't want to take part in an exchange program as I want to specifcally teach in NYC - wondere if anyone could help?

Lastly! If there was not a snowball's chance in hell of me teaching in NYC I thought I'd enquire about Canada and wondered about the application process there.

Any help would be great, thanks.
You have a 1st class degree in English, but you can't spell yesterday ...
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sadly my bloody keyboard's broken so have to pummel the keys to get a 'd'! And clearly didn't hit it hard enough
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sadly my bloody keyboard's broken so have to pummel the keys to get a 'd'! And clearly didn't hit it hard enough
Hi there. If you do a search of the forums, you'll find that teaching in the US has been discussed many times before - put simply though, you haven't really got any chance of getting a visa as a teacher. But if you read through some previous threads you'll find out more info.

As for Canada, also not too much chance I'm afraid! You'd have to get a job offer first as teachers are not on the Skilled Workers list, but the problem is that not only do you have to find a job offer as a teacher (v tricky) but that your potential employer then has to apply for something called a LMO - this is basically proof that they have advertised the job across Canada and been unable to find a Canadian willing, or able, to do the job. As you can imagine, this is incredibly hard given the recession in Canada and the amount of Canadians out of work.

But, having said all that, it will certainly be easier for you to get a visa for Canada than the US. Start with reading these two Wiki articles which should help.............................http://britishexpats.com/wiki/Teaching_in_Canada

http://britishexpats.com/wiki/Quick_...an_Immigration

You're not by any chance under 30 are you? If so, there is another option. Or do you have a spouse or partner that could apply for Canada instead (as you'd then get a visa with them)?

Best of luck.
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Hi,
thanks for the reply.
Yeah I am just under 30 - so what is the other option?
I would only be looking to teach there for a year, not permanently.
I've researched Canada a bit more and it seems far easier than NY. That said I will teach in NYC, no matter how tough it is to get it - I'm pretty determined Thanks for the help and links
In reply to your last point my wife does have family in the U.S in Texas, but surely that would mean going to that particular state?
She has a grandmother, uncles and cousins there.

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That said I will teach in NYC, no matter how tough it is to get it - I'm pretty determined Thanks for the help and links
No, you really won't. It's not "tough" - it's simply not possible with the immigration system as it stands. Or are you prepared to wait for some far-off promise of immigration reform?
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That said I will teach in NYC, no matter how tough it is to get it - I'm pretty determined
Sorry to piss on your chips. It doesn't work like that.

'Where there's a will, there's a way' does NOT apply to US immigration. You will learn this.


Basically an exchange program is your only chance of working in the US any time soon, unless you marry a yank.

Go for Canada.
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Originally Posted by YesteraysNews
Hi,
thanks for the reply.
Yeah I am just under 30 - so what is the other option?
I would only be looking to teach there for a year, not permanently.
I've researched Canada a bit more and it seems far easier than NY. That said I will teach in NYC, no matter how tough it is to get it - I'm pretty determined Thanks for the help and links
In reply to your last point my wife does have family in the U.S in Texas, but surely that would mean going to that particular state?
She has a grandmother, uncles and cousins there.
No, sorry, I meant having a wife or partner for Canadian immigration, not US. Her US family is no help at all to you for getting there I'm afraid. I was just thinking that your wife may be in an occupation more in demand, so she may be able to get a visa for Canada easier and then you could tag along with her.

As for the under 30 thing, just Google 'Bunac' - it's a years open work permit for Canada. You are highly unlikely to be able to teach there though, you just won't have time to get accredited and even if you did, would struggle to find a teaching job (as you will know now from reading that Wiki article, teachers struggle to find work anyway in Canada, and it'd be even worse if you only had a years permit to find somebody to take you on). But if you just want a year in Canada and are prepared to do another job then that's your best bet - unless, as I said, your wife is in a more specialist job.

Good luck.
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You could come to the US for a Masters degree, after which you would have a year or so of 'practical work training' but long term, your best bet is to marry a Yank (seriously)
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Originally Posted by YesteraysNews
Hi,
thanks for the reply.
Yeah I am just under 30 - so what is the other option?
I would only be looking to teach there for a year, not permanently.
I've researched Canada a bit more and it seems far easier than NY. That said I will teach in NYC, no matter how tough it is to get it - I'm pretty determined Thanks for the help and links
In reply to your last point my wife does have family in the U.S in Texas, but surely that would mean going to that particular state?
She has a grandmother, uncles and cousins there.
Unless your wife is a USC then she will be of no assistance in getting you into the US. Nor will her relatives.
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I'm not looking for long-term as I've said, perhaps a year - does the same still apply?
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It applies to whatever, whenever. US immigration appears to be getting tighter even for visitors, as far as I can see. Can't see why it would be any different for you.

Anyway, why specifically NYC?
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read the wiki up top and you'll realise it is not likely o happen unless either you or your missus is a yank.

Schools just don't have the money and can't be bothered...teaching at uni level might have more luck because they are at least cap excempt, so wouldn't have to wait for the fiscal year to start.
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I'm not looking for long-term as I've said, perhaps a year - does the same still apply?
Yes. Seriously, go for Canada!

The US is notoriously difficult for anybody to get in to, even those with more specialist skills. Canada is your best bet, and you can even drive to NYC for the weekend from areas of Canada, so may get the best of both worlds.

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just read about public schools hiring foreign teachers on H1B visas, might be a long shot though and if it's a possibility at all you'll need to be much more flexible about where you live and what you can teach.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...48_h1b28m.html
https://www.immigrationsupport.com/f...educators.aspx
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