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tony126 Jan 9th 2015 3:19 am

Taxes (again)
 
Confirmation would be appreciated on my following interpretation.

Yearly Average Currency Exchange Rates

As my OAP is paid directly into my US bank account the above information (when up-dated for this year) does not apply as it arrives in $'s as per bilateral agreements between the USA/UK. Whereas my Company pension which is paid into my UK bank would apply. Comment as always would be appreciated.

lansbury Jan 9th 2015 5:09 am

Re: Taxes (again)
 
That is exactly how I would do it, apply the average rate to the UK pension paid in GBP.

Pulaski Jan 9th 2015 5:38 am

Re: Taxes (again)
 
If you receive it in USD there is nothing exchanged and therefore no exchange rate to apply. If you receive it in GBP then you must convert it to a USD figure, using either (a) the mid rate on each day that you receive it into your account in the UK, OR using the IRS average rate (either is acceptable, and calculating both and picking the lower is what a tax accountant would do).

robin1234 Jan 9th 2015 5:45 am

Re: Taxes (again)
 

Originally Posted by tony126 (Post 11527530)
Confirmation would be appreciated on my following interpretation.

Yearly Average Currency Exchange Rates

As my OAP is paid directly into my US bank account the above information (when up-dated for this year) does not apply as it arrives in $'s as per bilateral agreements between the USA/UK. Whereas my Company pension which is paid into my UK bank would apply. Comment as always would be appreciated.

Yes, I believe you are right. Simply use the actual dollar amount received for your British state pension. For your company pension, it would be appropriate to use the yearly average currency rate. However - for FBAR and similar purposes, use the US Treasury published end of year rate.

tony126 Jan 9th 2015 7:24 am

Re: Taxes (again)
 
Thank you all for your time and answers. I think we are all on the same page from what I am reading.

lansbury Jan 9th 2015 7:52 am

Re: Taxes (again)
 

Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 11527750)
using either (a) the mid rate on each day that you receive it into your account in the UK, OR using the IRS average rate (either is acceptable, and calculating both and picking the lower is what a tax accountant would do).

You should not use the mid rate as that isn't what the IRS uses. You should use the actual rate you would have got if you had done the exchange that day.

The IRS average rate is calculated using the bank rate a customer would have received.

Pulaski Jan 9th 2015 8:30 am

Re: Taxes (again)
 

Originally Posted by lansbury (Post 11527916)
You should not use the mid rate as that isn't what the IRS uses. You should use the actual rate you would have got if you had done the exchange that day.

The IRS average rate is calculated using the bank rate a customer would have received.

That makes sense, and explains why the IRS rates are so far from the mid rates the media report.


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