British Expats

British Expats (https://britishexpats.com/forum/)
-   USA (https://britishexpats.com/forum/usa-57/)
-   -   Swearing on the "Holy Scripture"? (https://britishexpats.com/forum/usa-57/swearing-holy-scripture-318357/)

NC Penguin Aug 6th 2005 12:49 am

Swearing on the "Holy Scripture"?
 
What does this mean to you? This came up in a Greensboro, NC, courtoom and is now being debated.

See-
http://www.nbc17.com/news/4771968/de...s=tri&psp=news

Does this mean solely the Bible? Can Holy Scripture include other Holy books from other faiths?



NC Penguin

fatbrit Aug 6th 2005 12:52 am

Re: Swearing on the "Holy Scripture"?
 
Why not do away with all the claptrap and just swear to tell the truth? Be much easier...

NC Penguin Aug 6th 2005 1:02 am

Re: Swearing on the "Holy Scripture"?
 

Originally Posted by fatbrit
Why not do away with all the claptrap and just swear to tell the truth? Be much easier...

This is true but some people feel the need to justify their actions by including the religious bit...



NC Penguin

dbj1000 Aug 6th 2005 1:11 am

Re: Swearing on the "Holy Scripture"?
 

Originally Posted by fatbrit
Why not do away with all the claptrap and just swear to tell the truth? Be much easier...

Ah, but I bet your guilty conscience can't strike you with a bolt of lightning when you lie!

...can it?

fatbrit Aug 6th 2005 1:22 am

Re: Swearing on the "Holy Scripture"?
 

Originally Posted by dbj1000
Ah, but I bet your guilty conscience can't strike you with a bolt of lightning when you lie!

...can it?


If he had bolts of lightening in his arsenal, I'm sure BE wouldn't be here!

sibsie Aug 6th 2005 1:49 am

Re: Swearing on the "Holy Scripture"?
 
Don't they give the option here of the Oath or Affirmation like they do at home? :confused:

Bob Aug 6th 2005 2:09 am

Re: Swearing on the "Holy Scripture"?
 

Originally Posted by sibsie
Don't they give the option here of the Oath or Affirmation like they do at home? :confused:

dont' know...wasn't given the option in my AOS interview....

scrubbedexpat099 Aug 6th 2005 5:06 am

Re: Swearing on the "Holy Scripture"?
 

Originally Posted by Bob
dont' know...wasn't given the option in my AOS interview....

Me too, not that I was that bothered, school did the same.

I am sure that if it is allowed there will be some additional variations that will come up, just too tempting...

Bob Aug 6th 2005 5:27 am

Re: Swearing on the "Holy Scripture"?
 

Originally Posted by Boiler
Me too, not that I was that bothered, school did the same.

Well I wasn't to impressed by it, but I wasn't about to kick up a fuss for something so trivial...should have done though looking back because I still haven't gotten my greencard :D

ukemigrant Aug 6th 2005 11:36 am

Re: Swearing on the "Holy Scripture"?
 

Originally Posted by NC Penguin
What does this mean to you? This came up in a Greensboro, NC, courtoom and is now being debated.

See-
http://www.nbc17.com/news/4771968/de...s=tri&psp=news

Does this mean solely the Bible? Can Holy Scripture include other Holy books from other faiths?
NC Penguin

Hmmm, what could atheists use? Hawking's A Brief History of Time? Monty Python's The Meaning of Life? Douglas Adam's Life, the Universe and Everything?, Darwin's Origin of the Species? Einstein's E=mc^2?

Lion in Winter Aug 6th 2005 12:00 pm

Re: Swearing on the "Holy Scripture"?
 

Originally Posted by ukemigrant
Hmmm, what could atheists use? Hawking's A Brief History of Time? Monty Python's The Meaning of Life? Douglas Adam's Life, the Universe and Everything?, Darwin's Origin of the Species? Einstein's E=mc^2?

The Meaning of Life, definitely.

So, if a non-believer such as myself is made to swear on a holy book, does that mean that the oath is invalid and in fact I'm not obliged to tell the truth?

Ray Aug 6th 2005 12:37 pm

Re: Swearing on the "Holy Scripture"?
 

Originally Posted by Lion in Winter
The Meaning of Life, definitely.
So, if a non-believer such as myself is made to swear on a holy book, does that mean that the oath is invalid and in fact I'm not obliged to tell the truth?

In a UK court you heathens would say:
I swear or affirm that the evidence you are about to give is “the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth�.

Lion in Winter Aug 6th 2005 12:40 pm

Re: Swearing on the "Holy Scripture"?
 

Originally Posted by Ray
In a UK court you heathens would say:
I swear or affirm that the evidence you are about to give is “the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth�.

They've removed the Almighty God bit at the beginning then?

I've sworn to lots of things in this country, and I think they all involved god - and possibly a flag, but I can't remember.

Ray Aug 6th 2005 12:48 pm

Re: Swearing on the "Holy Scripture"?
 

Originally Posted by Lion in Winter
They've removed the Almighty God bit at the beginning then?
I've sworn to lots of things in this country, and I think they all involved god - and possibly a flag, but I can't remember.

But if your chinese (I think) you say an oath and then you have to smash a saucer ...I saw it happen in a London Court ...weird...

Lion in Winter Aug 6th 2005 12:49 pm

Re: Swearing on the "Holy Scripture"?
 

Originally Posted by Ray
But if your chinese (I think) you say an oath and then you have to smash a saucer ...I saw it happen in a London Court ...weird...

Now that I could get into. Like those drunken Greeks in restaurants when they appreciate the music...........oh never mind, that's another story.


All times are GMT. The time now is 6:30 am.

Powered by vBulletin: ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.