Swearing on the "Holy Scripture"?
Aug 6th 2005, 12:49 am
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Swearing on the "Holy Scripture"?
What does this mean to you? This came up in a Greensboro, NC, courtoom and is now being debated.
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http://www.nbc17.com/news/4771968/de...s=tri&psp=news
Does this mean solely the Bible? Can Holy Scripture include other Holy books from other faiths?
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See-
http://www.nbc17.com/news/4771968/de...s=tri&psp=news
Does this mean solely the Bible? Can Holy Scripture include other Holy books from other faiths?
NC Penguin
Aug 6th 2005, 12:52 am
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Re: Swearing on the "Holy Scripture"?
Why not do away with all the claptrap and just swear to tell the truth? Be much easier...
Aug 6th 2005, 1:02 am
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Re: Swearing on the "Holy Scripture"?
Originally Posted by fatbrit
Why not do away with all the claptrap and just swear to tell the truth? Be much easier...
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Aug 6th 2005, 1:11 am
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Re: Swearing on the "Holy Scripture"?
Originally Posted by fatbrit
Why not do away with all the claptrap and just swear to tell the truth? Be much easier...
...can it?
Aug 6th 2005, 1:22 am
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Re: Swearing on the "Holy Scripture"?
Originally Posted by dbj1000
Ah, but I bet your guilty conscience can't strike you with a bolt of lightning when you lie!
...can it?
...can it?
If he had bolts of lightening in his arsenal, I'm sure BE wouldn't be here!
Aug 6th 2005, 1:49 am
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Re: Swearing on the "Holy Scripture"?
Don't they give the option here of the Oath or Affirmation like they do at home? 
Aug 6th 2005, 2:09 am
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Re: Swearing on the "Holy Scripture"?
Originally Posted by sibsie
Don't they give the option here of the Oath or Affirmation like they do at home?
Aug 6th 2005, 5:06 am
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Re: Swearing on the "Holy Scripture"?
Originally Posted by Bob
dont' know...wasn't given the option in my AOS interview....
I am sure that if it is allowed there will be some additional variations that will come up, just too tempting...
Aug 6th 2005, 5:27 am
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Re: Swearing on the "Holy Scripture"?
Originally Posted by Boiler
Me too, not that I was that bothered, school did the same.
Aug 6th 2005, 11:36 am
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Re: Swearing on the "Holy Scripture"?
Originally Posted by NC Penguin
What does this mean to you? This came up in a Greensboro, NC, courtoom and is now being debated.
See-
http://www.nbc17.com/news/4771968/de...s=tri&psp=news
Does this mean solely the Bible? Can Holy Scripture include other Holy books from other faiths?
NC Penguin
See-
http://www.nbc17.com/news/4771968/de...s=tri&psp=news
Does this mean solely the Bible? Can Holy Scripture include other Holy books from other faiths?
NC Penguin
Aug 6th 2005, 12:00 pm
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Re: Swearing on the "Holy Scripture"?
Originally Posted by ukemigrant
Hmmm, what could atheists use? Hawking's A Brief History of Time? Monty Python's The Meaning of Life? Douglas Adam's Life, the Universe and Everything?, Darwin's Origin of the Species? Einstein's E=mc^2?
So, if a non-believer such as myself is made to swear on a holy book, does that mean that the oath is invalid and in fact I'm not obliged to tell the truth?
Aug 6th 2005, 12:37 pm
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Re: Swearing on the "Holy Scripture"?
Originally Posted by Lion in Winter
The Meaning of Life, definitely.
So, if a non-believer such as myself is made to swear on a holy book, does that mean that the oath is invalid and in fact I'm not obliged to tell the truth?
So, if a non-believer such as myself is made to swear on a holy book, does that mean that the oath is invalid and in fact I'm not obliged to tell the truth?
I swear or affirm that the evidence you are about to give is “the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth�.
Aug 6th 2005, 12:40 pm
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Re: Swearing on the "Holy Scripture"?
Originally Posted by Ray
In a UK court you heathens would say:
I swear or affirm that the evidence you are about to give is “the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth�.
I swear or affirm that the evidence you are about to give is “the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth�.
I've sworn to lots of things in this country, and I think they all involved god - and possibly a flag, but I can't remember.
Aug 6th 2005, 12:48 pm
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Re: Swearing on the "Holy Scripture"?
Originally Posted by Lion in Winter
They've removed the Almighty God bit at the beginning then?
I've sworn to lots of things in this country, and I think they all involved god - and possibly a flag, but I can't remember.
I've sworn to lots of things in this country, and I think they all involved god - and possibly a flag, but I can't remember.
Aug 6th 2005, 12:49 pm
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Re: Swearing on the "Holy Scripture"?
Originally Posted by Ray
But if your chinese (I think) you say an oath and then you have to smash a saucer ...I saw it happen in a London Court ...weird...